Starcraft Mafia: Legacy of the Void [Game Over]

[u r a person 2]

that progression from Chenn makes perfect sense when you lay it out like that?

[u r a person 2]

Alright, maybe Volxen/MJL is town?

Chen is contradicting themselves which is really strange.

So, UNVOTE:

VOTE: Chennisden

I can relate to MJL having trouble getting into the game, so eh NAI. That happens to me to in some games. where I’m lost and have no clue what I’m doing but I like Volxen’s case.

It’s similar to the convo Bubbes and I were having about them.

~Buttercup

It's not really a contradiction?

I'm not assuming that this is what went through Chenn's head, but the narrative Volxen is promoting is that

-Chenn was hesitant to vote volxen because he felt scum were pushing it
-Chenn looked at a viable alternative
-Chenn decided they town read that alternative
-So they went to the volxen vote in spite of their misgivings

Where's the issue?

[Powerpuff Girls]

Shiro is also bleeding town all over. Looks like some horror scene.

+1

I wouldn’t touch that wagon with a ten foot pole.

And MJL would have claimed scum by now with thisbpressure.

+1

Sorry we had to push you guys so hard but we needed to be able to read you.


~Buttercup the fair and understanding

[Powerpuff Girls]

that progression from Chenn makes perfect sense when you lay it out like that?

Alright, maybe Volxen/MJL is town?

Chen is contradicting themselves which is really strange.

So, UNVOTE:

VOTE: Chennisden

I can relate to MJL having trouble getting into the game, so eh NAI. That happens to me to in some games. where I’m lost and have no clue what I’m doing but I like Volxen’s case.

It’s similar to the convo Bubbes and I were having about them.

~Buttercup

It's not really a contradiction?

I'm not assuming that this is what went through Chenn's head, but the narrative Volxen is promoting is that

-Chenn was hesitant to vote volxen because he felt scum were pushing it
-Chenn looked at a viable alternative
-Chenn decided they town read that alternative
-So they went to the volxen vote in spite of their misgivings

Where's the issue?

UNVOTE:

Uh, maybe you’re right?

I can’t get a hold of Blossom rn and Bubbles is having her beauty sleep.

I’ll think on this a bit more.

[Powerpuff Girls]

I could wagon chenn.

VOTE: Chennisden

If things go south though I’m going back to Shadowless. Only reason I’m letting them go at all is because Night Actions could resolve them.

I could wagon chenn.

VOTE: Chennisden

If things go south though I’m going back to Shadowless. Only reason I’m letting them go at all is because Night Actions

could

resolve them.

Very doubtful they would though.

I don't know why I am arguing this. I don't townread or scumread shadow.

Hmmm . . . worth mentioning that scum!Performer claimed bp in SC1.

I also really hated Shadowlesscloud’s unexplained discredit on me. How am I being anything like I was in Stellaris here? I clearly do have a grasp of what’s going on in this gamestate. I think him comparing this game with Stellaris, looked like a really suspicious way to discredit my read on him.



~Buttercup, the not buying it

SC2 had a mod-given Bulletproof fakeclaim that got counterclaimed by an actual Town Bulletproof. It’s why I’m willing to go back if things go bad but also willing to let an investigative resolve it.

I stopped following the game after I got NK’d N1 but interesting, that there’d be an identical fake claim and real claim.

[Powerpuff Girls]

well, you did fp me :p

what does fp mean?

fasposted

Hi, Bubbles is suspicious of Volxen and thinks Liger may be town. I would prefer HER to give her reasons why.

This is where my gut is at rn, too

In 584 you wanna lynch the BP claim. From this point, there is zero involvement on your part to actually push this. Moreso, you never vote there anyway.

In 639 you give a number of scumreads in shiro, volxen/mj, Hydra TBD. And end up voting for one of them, never explaining a single one of these reads.

642 feels a lot like trying to buddy A50. Why specifically ask this to him, and not anyone or everyone else?

663 is my biggest issue. A50 replies, and says he has different reads. But instead of asking for information about the slot urap is voting, he wants to know why A50 townreads

the other one.

Feels fake.

HOWEVER, 707 followed by 710 are posts I can relate to, and feel town. Specifically the fact that the hydra only posts after being called out is a red flag, and reminds me of another game I played with a scum!MJL.

VOTE: Volxen/MJL

Link?

[Volxen MJL Combo Pack]

Regarding MJL, I was the one who approached her about hydra'ing together in this game. We had recently completed a newbie game together, and I saw that she had /in'd and then quickly /out'd of this Starcraft game in the signup thread because she thought the game was going to be complicated. I enjoyed playing with her in that newbie game, so I offered to hydra with her in this game as it seemed like she wanted to play this game but would have had a hard time playing solo. That's why I will be doing the majority of the posting on our account, as MJL is really taking this as a learning opportunity to get more familiar with non-newbie games.

- Volxen

[u r a person 2]

Hey, Volxen, I'm glad you're back! I really want to hear a few of MJ's strong opinions because I want to know if that was a poorly considered throw away line.

Think you guys could do your little huddle thing so that we could get that?

[Volxen MJL Combo Pack]

Alright, maybe Volxen/MJL is town?

Chen is contradicting themselves which is really strange.

So, UNVOTE:

VOTE: Chennisden

I can relate to MJL having trouble getting into the game, so eh NAI. That happens to me to in some games. where I’m lost and have no clue what I’m doing but I like Volxen’s case.

It’s similar to the convo Bubbes and I were having about them.

~Buttercup

It's not really a contradiction?

I'm not assuming that this is what went through Chenn's head, but the narrative Volxen is promoting is that

-Chenn was hesitant to vote volxen because he felt scum were pushing it
-Chenn looked at a viable alternative
-Chenn decided they town read that alternative
-So they went to the volxen vote in spite of their misgivings

Where's the issue?

You are vastly oversimplifying the points that I brought up in post 1072. Chenn contradicted himself by, for example, saying that he thought both wagons were bad in one post and then that I was an "OK lynch" less than one minute later in his next post (implying that he doesn't think my wagon is bad). And if he really thought that both wagons were bad, he should have voted for someone other than Shiro or I.

- Volxen

[u r a person 2]

that fits with what I said. ???

I think you're trying to make something where there is nothing

[u r a person 2]

Like if he doesn't like the wagons, but is scum reading you independent of the people on your wagon...

[chennisden]

I've lost a lot of my reservations about voting Volxen+MJL now.

[chennisden]

Also, I've lost any reservation of URAP town.

This is as town as you get.

[Volxen MJL Combo Pack]

that fits with what I said. ???

I think you're trying to make something where there is nothing

Like if he doesn't like the wagons, but is scum reading you independent of the people on your wagon...

If he is scumreading me then there would be no reason to "not like my wagon" nor to express "regret" at the time that he voted for me. That's the whole point. Even if he has suspicions of PPG and/or RCE being scum, if he believes that all of us are scum then my wagon would be a scum-driven wagon on scum, and it shouldn't matter to him (although that’s a very unlikely scenario). When he says that he doesn't like my wagon he's implying that he isn't scumreading me, and then when he turns around and says that I'm independently an OK lynch less than one minute later he's implying that he is scumreading me.

And even though it’s technically possible from town!Chenn’s POV that PPG and I are scum together, if he is town he should recognize that is extremely improbable given how aggressively they have pushed me on day one, to the point where I have become a leading wagon. If he believes that PPG is scum that would have been all the more reason to

NOT

vote for me. If he believes that I am scum, then he shouldn’t have called my wagon bad. Claiming both things at the same time is a contradiction. That’s why I believe that his “progression” on my slot is fake.

And beyond all of that, he gave a very minimal explanation for not liking the Shiro wagon in post 916 (although in post 921 he said that he found nothing town-indicative about Shiro) and next to no explanation for his treatment of my slot. If you are townreading Chenn, please explain why.

- Volxen

[Moongrass]

Honestly volxen some vague reads would be enough to make me move at this point but just give us something more than a chen scumread.

[Moongrass]

Ftr I agree with the Chen scumread.

[Moongrass]

Votecount 1.7

Volxen MJL Combo Pack(5)

~ Powerpuff Girls(115), u r a person 2(39), Iconeum(50), chennisden(27), Moongrass(37)

Shiro(5)

~ Hydra TBD(26), Liger_Zero(134), Wisdom(72), Alchemist21(50), Almost50(59)

Moongrass(1)

~ Vedith(120)

Liger_Zero(1)

~ Shiro(11)

chennisden(1)

~ RCEnigma(77)


Not Voting (3): Volxen MJL Combo Pack(13), Flavor Leaf(126), Cerberus v666(19)

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-23 14:38:00)

MOD REMINDERS

Volxen MJL Combo Pack needs a prod. The last post was at: 4/17/2019 4:53:00 PM which was 2 days 8 hours 11 minutes 14 seconds ago.

FLAVOR

FL why are you not voting?
Vedith can you try voting scum?

[Moongrass]

VOTE: MaryJoLisa

Okay

Oh the vedith vote was supposed to be on MJL I think.

[Krazy]

Apologies, fixing 1.7, scrubber did not pick up vedith's vote.

[Powerpuff Girls]

I've lost a lot of my reservations about voting Volxen+MJL now.

Also, I've lost any reservation of URAP town.

This is as town as you get.

Obvscumreading the slot that sr you. Townlocking the slot that trs you. Not always accurate. Scum can pocket to you know. Sorry but this hardcore read, seems to be based soley on how the respective slots are reading you. And Volxen is right, it makes absolutely no sense to ever think VolxenMJL and us are ever s/s here.

This post isn’t helping.

~Buttercup

[Powerpuff Girls]

Honestly volxen some vague reads would be enough to make me move at this point but just give us something more than a chen scumread.

Yeah, we need more from Volxen.

Ftr I agree with the Chen scumread.

Yeah and his VolxenMJL and Urap reads are ew.

[Powerpuff Girls]

VOTE: MaryJoLisa

Okay

Oh the vedith vote was supposed to be on MJL I think.

Makes way more sense. You are the puffs #1 townread in this game.

Btw, Blossom told me to tell you all that she won’t have proper internet access until tomorrow night, so if you guys can hold off hammering until then, that would be swell.


~Buttercup

[Krazy]

Moderator Announcement: popsofctown replaces Vedith!

[Moongrass]

Vedith, Flavor Leaf, Almost50, Iconeum, u r a person 2, Powerpuff Girls.
Liger_Zero, RCEnigma, Hydra TBD.

------ Lynch line
Alchemist21, Volxen MJL Combo Pack, Shiro.
Wisdom, chennisden, Cerberus v666.

Shiro/wisdom/cerb will likely be easier to sort with some flips and more information.

Happy to lynch in alchemist, chen or volxen as things currently stand.

[Moongrass]

Hey pops.