Mini Normal 2067: Musicals [Endgame]

[Ausuka]

because scum have done that before?

[Vorkuta]

Yeah but it was suboptimal.... like how does this player roster even ENTERTAIN the idea at all? Is the FL paranoia that strong?

[Vedith]

Because it's something that FL would do.
All game he was saying "I don't do this as scum" about shit when he literally said and did it last scum game.
If FL was scum and was guaranteed the lynch this play would have happened.

And let's not forget that FL shot HitAlt as doc because HitAlt was scum protecting me as scum.
It was a lucky accident where he read the wrong connections in the right spots.

Thanks for modding Dann.

[Ausuka]

i don't get your point vorkuta. even if you think the idea is suboptimal, it's something scum players have proven they have done, so it has to be taken into consideration when there's a vig claim and no mafia kill.

[Vorkuta]

Maybe in his morality account lawl.
Yeah I was trying hard to push that forward.

I thought we could then settle down and get people to accept that FL was fakeclaiming vig while the real vig shot HitAlt buuuuuuutttt apparently scum!FL shooting scum!Hit was more """plausible""" like..?

Anyway- if anyone has advice/tips/comments on newb!scum, I'd love to learn a thing or two!

[Vorkuta]

it's something scum players have proven they have done, s

So the next game

as town

I should be OPEN/CONSIDER that idea? Wow.... I'm actually slightly speechless

[Alchemist21]

It really shouldn’t be a thing that happens ever. There’s bussing to blend in, and then there’s deliberately setting your team back 2 cycles when you don’t have to.

Plus it didn’t even really work in one of those games and the other got abandoned so who knows what the ultimate result would have been.

[Alchemist21]

Thanks for modding Dann.

+1

[Ausuka]

i think you should consider the idea, yes. although to be honest it's not that likely of an occurrence and the only reason i thought it was quite likely here was that we already had a full vig flip.

I wouldn't do it but scum, like town, make bad plays sometimes.

[Vorkuta]

Why is scum NK'ing scum even allowed???

[Ausuka]

Why wouldn't it be?

[Vedith]

If it's tactically beneficial to scum over not doing it then there's no reason not to.
It's no different to lynching or claiming a result on a scum buddy.

Both are down for the town credit, both result is scum dying.

[Vorkuta]

How popular is like... scum fakeclaiming a guilty on scum?

asking for a friend

[Vedith]

Its situational. Not overly common
But it's happened enough to be a known thing.

[Alchemist21]

One of the ideas we talked about for Vork’s fakeclaim:

Either VT

Or

Vanilla Cop:
N1 Baezu (Vanilla)
N2: (insert any target here) No Result

I’ve already worked out in my head how if a roleblocker exists it had to be on you. Vanilla Cop is the riskier claim but if they think a roleblocker exists then it could work in our favor.

I do wonder how this would have worked out. Could Vork have won a 1v1 against Ausuka there?

[Vorkuta]

I don't see a future where I would've convincingly claimed any PR.
I only have experience with one so I have no idea what I'd've... "done" as an actual cop

But yeah- purely for the sake of speculation- ASSUMING I could've pulled it off, would D3 have been different?

[Vedith]

Would have been funny if Vork also claimed doc

[Ausuka]

I might be biased but I think I'd probably win that 1v1, given that you were going to give exactly zero results that would be risky as scum, I conftowned Baezu earlier, and I was quite well-townread.

the doc claim would have been hilarious

[Alchemist21]

Would have been funny if Vork also claimed doc

Were you in that game where we had 5 Millers?

[Vedith]

I would have believed that doc claim as the 4th doc.

[Ausuka]

Would have been funny if Vork also claimed doc

Simple Doctor? A doctor that can only target Vanilla players.

Or an informed n3 + n4 doctor

[Vedith]

Would have been funny if Vork also claimed doc

Were you in that game where we had 5 Millers?

Yeah I replaced in and got lynched as scum lol.
Shit like that is just too scummy to be scum I swear

[Alchemist21]

He actually had a couple posts where he considered that claim. I told him don’t do it. Lmao

[Vorkuta]

Shit like that is just too scummy to be scum I swear

I got close!
But then hard guilty

[Vedith]

Would have been funny if Vork also claimed doc

Simple Doctor? A doctor that can only target Vanilla players.

Or an informed n3 + n4 doctor

I think only on Vanilla would pull at my strings.
This is why I like to go to Doc of some sort as a fake claim. It's hard to prove wrong and you can play around with alterations.