Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:51 pm

And to just say that I'm "playing bad" is a huge cop-out given that you've seen me lead a mislynch I claimed as 100% and have a bad read on you before and you still townread me for it.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:51 pm

In post 1549, Shoshin wrote:I guess Celica could be scum. If I'm wrong on any of my townreads, it's Celica.

What changed this

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:53 pm

Man it'd be weeeeeeird if someone tells me "this isn't what GIF-town would do"

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:54 pm

This isn't what GIF-Town would do.

Shoshin · Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:57 pm

In post 1551, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 1549, Shoshin wrote:I guess Celica could be scum. If I'm wrong on any of my townreads, it's Celica.
What changed this

You're right that 1356 is bad. My townread on her comes from the slight revisions to her reads as she moves through the game in her early string of posts. Those types of small changes aren't something that scum just do.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:57 pm

In post 1553, RadiantCowbells wrote:This isn't what GIF-Town would do.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:58 pm

Shoshin even if you're scum it's not to your win condition to ignore me.

Shoshin · Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:59 pm

I'm not scum, & if I were I wouldn't be pushing you, RC. You should know this because you've played against scum me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:00 pm

I think that's awfully one dimensional reasoning for why I should be townreading you particularly given you shouldn't be pushing me if you're town, either.

Shoshin · Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:01 pm

I'm voting Egix?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:01 pm

Egix isn't scum either. Celica could easily be.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:03 pm

In post 1557, Shoshin wrote:I'm not scum, & if I were I wouldn't be pushing you, RC.

"I'm town because I'm pushing you"

In post 1558, RadiantCowbells wrote:you shouldn't be pushing me if you're town, either

"If you're town you shouldn't be pushing me"

In post 1559, Shoshin wrote:I'm voting Egix?

"I'm not pushing you"

????

Shoshin · Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:03 pm

I guess you want another game like Fire, huh?

Shoshin · Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:05 pm

RC, why'd you say I was wrong about you in Fire when I didn't townread you, I said you should be lynched before LYLO, and I eventually voted you before replacing out? Why are you lying about this?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:06 pm

If I was scum who wanted to mislynch you I would have done it day 1. Or I would have just not given you so many outs. I would already have killed most people in your position.

RC, why'd you say I was wrong about you in Fire when I didn't townread you, I said you should be lynched before LYLO, and I eventually voted you before replacing out? Why are you lying about this?

you voted then apologized for it. you said that I was scum in dead thread but that was after I tried to lynch your slot after your replacement.
If I wasn't assuming that you misreading me was at least hypothetically possible I would have killed you already.

Shoshin · Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:07 pm

Can we just apply BoP to me? If Egix flips town, I'll accept my own lynching.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:09 pm

Why did you refuse to talk to me about your read on me until I voted you?

Shoshin · Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:10 pm

In post 1564, RadiantCowbells wrote:you voted then apologized for it. you said that I was scum in dead thread but that was after I tried to lynch your slot after your replacement.
If I wasn't assuming that you misreading me was at least hypothetically possible I would have killed you already.

I don't recall apologizing for voting you? If you're talking about D1, maybe, mostly because you were defending me & I needed some support. But I didn't apologize for voting you on D2. And I never townread you that game & I expressly said you should be lynched before LYLO. How is that me being wrong in that game? I feel like you're lying about me in the same way you lied about me in Fire, using it to push your narrative of the game instead of trying to figure out reality.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:11 pm

What was your read on my slot before I replaced in btw

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:11 pm

Well that was for RC but I guess both could answer the question.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:13 pm

Okay. You immediately unvoted me and never referenced scumreading me again then tried to get me on a Jingle wagon. You apologized for saying I should be lynched before endgame.

Do you want me to burden of proficiency your read on me as if you were correct in that game?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:14 pm

I don't remember having a pretentious read

Shoshin · Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:17 pm

In post 1570, RadiantCowbells wrote:Okay. You immediately unvoted me and never referenced scumreading me again then tried to get me on a Jingle wagon. You apologized for saying I should be lynched before endgame.

Do you want me to burden of proficiency your read on me as if you were correct in that game?

You're not responding to my concern.

You said I was wrong about you.

I wasn't wrong because I never townread you.

I was null on you, which we've already talked about outside of this game. And as you know, when you're town I'm usually locktown on you on D1. Pretty much every game you've ever been town in wiht me, I strongly state to never lynch you ever. Fire was a large departure from how I normally read you.

So again, why say I was wrong on you when the way I read you in Fire was a massive departure from how I normally read you & wasn't anything close to wrong? This feels like a lie to me. And in Fire, you lied about me as well. Should I not be concerned about this?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:19 pm

I don't see why you'd be concerned about something that has literally no scum motivation.

Why aren't you townreading me here if you always townread me as town?

Shoshin · Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:22 pm

I don't think "scum motivation" matters when it comes to reading you. But there's an obvious one here: the lie is part of the narrative you want to push in this game, specifically the EXPLANATION (i.e. paper trail) as to why you behaved the way you did. Are you going to tell me this isn't something you do as scum?