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{Urap, TW, Ceejay} isn't something I'll be needing to explain. Don't lynch within these three.
So here's my goal for today; either get flipped and manage to prevent DENMON's lynch D3, or convince a lynch on my scumreads. The latter probably isn't gonna happen, so I'll start from the former.
Here's DENMON's readlist interpretted from #324, #362 and #458
{Ryno,Godmid}
{Lavender, Shosho/Ceejay, TW, Urist, urap}
{Marcus/Teacher}
Spoiler: 324
Spoiler: 362
Spoiler: 458
DENMON and I have had very similar reads throughout the game so far, and hopefully my flip would clear his. His D1 case against TW and Urap were bad, but I believe their motives came from more town than scum. Other than lack of experience, activity, and charisma, I do not see where DENMON comes across as scum-alligned.
I apologize if I've missed it, but why do people scumread DENMON, other than from PoE?
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I would love if everyone could take a bit of time to recase Ryno. I'll pick out where some of his posts have pinged me as scum or with scum-agenda, and offer a few questions at the end of this post.
First ping. RVS vote on Lavender is fine by itself, but the language used here felt slightly forced.In post 116, Ryno56 wrote:Gut feeling is gut feeling, unfortunately. Maybe it's the way they seem too eager to please.
I suppose the allignment of this post depends on how one may interpret it. Personally, it felt fake, moreso after Lavender's town flip.In post 124, Ryno56 wrote:
I can't tell you without potentially helping you, SCUM!In post 122, Lavender wrote:
Ok, but can you to tell me where you get this feeling from? Of how I want to seem like I’m helping?In post 120, Ryno56 wrote:
It might be that you genuinely want to help, but I get the feeling that you want to seem like you want to help.In post 118, Lavender wrote:Godmid, The reason why I don’t seem like I’m actively scum-hunting, is because I do not want to make someone stray from a correct read with my unsure reads.
And Ryno, My eager to please thing you have of me, is it because of my answering questions? If so I am simply trying to be helpful. If not and it’s something else like my reads, then you can make an assumption that I want to please. If it’s neither of those then can you tell me what made you think that of me?
Again, possible personal bias, but I scumread this by tone.In post 126, Ryno56 wrote:I'm not going to repeat myself again haha
Shade on shosho in a incredibly vague way that doesn't actually promote conversation.In post 264, Ryno56 wrote:"The scum are starting to becoming obvious in this one. Anyone else seeing it yet?"
I'm suspecting shoshin a little. They need to be more helpful in conversation
Vague again, Ryno scum reads Lavender again after townreading him a while ago?In post 323, Ryno56 wrote:Godmid and Lavender seem to be reactive instead of proactive, so I'm reading them as the scum atm
Scumread on Godmid and Teacher, "based on everyone else's reads"? What is meant by "everyone else's reads" in this case? Again, vague shade on shosho.In post 476, Ryno56 wrote:Scum - Godmid and Teacher (based on everyone else's reads, which make sense)
Suspicious - Lavender (too defensive, not proactive) and Shoshin (too unhelpful when we arent talking about him)
Town - all others
'The problem I'm having is that this site has 10 days for day 1. This is far too long for a day that had basically no information.'
I relate, 10 days seems much too excessive. I'm from Survivor ORGs which have 24 hours for voting. Maybe I'll start enjoying this more as things move forward.
Explain what made TW suspective? Atleast the shade on shosho is consistent.In post 638, Ryno56 wrote:Suspecting TW and Ceejay atm
@Ryno, what's your current readlist? Why do you suspect TW and Ceejay? Thoughts on DENMON and myself? Why have Teacher as scum in #476? Don't need to answer all of them, just the first two would be greatly appreciated.door stuck- PvtUrist
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Here goes nothing.I believe that Teacher has charmed town with his confident activity and charisma, and that I'll be lynched (teehee) for speaking heresy.
Starting with Marcus's D1 preflip readlist based on #289, I'd love to know how people read and feel about his ISO, if it were completely unrelated to Teacher.
{TW,Lavender} town
{Shosho, Urap, Ryno} lean-town
{Godmid, DENMON, Urist} null
This readlist's a bit too fence-sitty for my liking. Marcus attacked Urap for the majority of D1, then switched onto Godmid near the deadline. This isn't scum indicative by default, but realise that it allowed Marcus to fly under the radar while town was distracted with Godmid, until Teacher replaced in.
In regards to my lameass post of #460, it described what I feel about Teacher's slot well. Town's townreads on Teacher isn't because he's actually sorting or benefitting town, but because he's active and charasmatic. I don't believe I have what it takes to personally disprove him, both in direct argument and evidence, so I'll let my flip and theory do the talking.door stuck- u r a person 2
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specifically, I would like to see where and why you believe their motives come from a town mindset.In post 677, PvtUrist wrote:DENMON and I have had very similar reads throughout the game so far, and hopefully my flip would clear his. His D1 case against TW and Urap were bad, but I believe their motives came from more town than scum. Other than lack of experience, activity, and charisma, I do not see where DENMON comes across as scum-alligned.103-11 0-2- u r a person 2
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Reminder to self to respond to thisIn post 639, u r a person 2 wrote:why cj?- Ryno56
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urap....In post 668, u r a person 2 wrote:TW who do you prefer of those two?- the worst
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Urist you don't seem like you're enjoying being here much- teacher
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If you’re around and working on stuff.In post 648, teacher wrote:@ryno, I find your enthusiasm to be present at daybreak disconcerting given your malaise yesterday. Can you analyze the wagon and nk- the worst
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VOTE: DENMON don't disagree in the slightest
on the fence abt urist because he legit sounds like he's having an awful time posting- the worst
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PoE will do that though
it's not a hard towntell
Ryno if you're town please post exactly what's on your mind and full lucid thoughts
I'm in two camps. Either you're town with really interesting takes, or scum making stuff up and seeing what sticks.
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Does this mean there is one scum in {urap, ryno}? That was the godmid wagon before denmon's vote.In post 689, teacher wrote:VOTE: denmon
Urists plea, though mistaken, strikes me as legit feelings, especially after retreading him overnight.
Denmon hasn’t been on site for a full week. I’m convinced that one wagon was on scum; and that he went to me because his partner was on Godmid.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- the worst
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1-2 of them are scum i think
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Ummmmm.... no? Denmon didn’t vote Godmid?In post 694, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Does this mean there is one scum in {urap, ryno}? That was the godmid wagon before denmon's vote.In post 689, teacher wrote:VOTE: denmon
Urists plea, though mistaken, strikes me as legit feelings, especially after retreading him overnight.
Denmon hasn’t been on site for a full week. I’m convinced that one wagon was on scum; and that he went to me because his partner was on Godmid.- teacher
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In post 696, teacher wrote:
Ummmmm.... no? Denmon didn’t vote Godmid?In post 694, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Does this mean there is one scum in {urap, ryno}? That was the godmid wagon before denmon's vote.In post 689, teacher wrote:VOTE: denmon
Urists plea, though mistaken, strikes me as legit feelings, especially after retreading him overnight.
Denmon hasn’t been on site for a full week. I’m convinced that one wagon was on scum; and that he went to me because his partner was on Godmid.
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