Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

this mbaki/RC thing seems unnecessary

it's entirely necessary he's scum.

[BNL]

Vote Count 2.1.1

Protect (2): RadiantCowbells, Ankamius
Coalition (1): chennisden

Not Voting (13): mbaki, OkaPoka, Time Devil, themilkcartonkid, Creature, Taly, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, NanceFloor, Chemist1422, 0verki11, BrightEyedFish, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

The deadline for choosing a power is 8 May 11:15pm UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-05-08 23:15:00)

Mod notes:

[RadiantCowbells]

why would scum ever cc here

[chennisden]

i'm going to literally no comment on the first coalition and even ask to be excluded from it.
then I get absolute control over the second coalition if/when it fails.

no.

not putting you in a coalition is game throwing.

[BNL]

Please don't talk about blacklisting in the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

like there's no reason tmck would have been softing from early in the game as scum. he's town. idk what you think is going to happen.

[OkaPoka]

why would scum ever cc here

just want to make 100% sure that we can mark tmck as 100% town because i don't want any hitches in the plan

[OkaPoka]

also I want to repeat that the two coalitions MUST BE DIFFERENT

other than our guaranteed town

So no, RC cannot be in both coalitions.

[chennisden]

i have a better plan.

we kill mbaki then do whatever we've done before.

[chennisden]

also I want to repeat that the two coalitions MUST BE DIFFERENT

other than our guaranteed town

So no, RC cannot be in both coalitions.

that pretty much guarantees a loss. no.

[Titus]

In fact if tmck remains un-cc'd

coalition is straight up better than 1 of 4

Not sure. Examples please.

Okay so if tmck is 100% town

Then WE pick the coalition of 4 people.

If we succeed in picking 4 town, we win.

If we fail, then we know there is at least one scum in the pool but also deny the scum the nk.

If we coalition twice, we have two separate 1 of 4 pools to work with that guarantee us 1 scum each. 1 of 4 will also guarantee us one scum after we finish out the coalition pools.

Three scum left. Win.

also are u scum

This is incorrect. We have three possible scenarios if coalition fails twice.

1-1-1 One in each coalition.
2-1-0 Two in the first coalition. One in the second. Zero left over.
1-2-0 One in the first coalition. Two in the second. Zero left over.

Not scum.

The superiority of doubling Coalition is the auto win scenario.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not excluding people from my coalition because they were present in the first one.

[chennisden]

that also does NO FAVORS for our PoE. we have to put people who've been towning it up this game in our coalition.

[mbaki]

this mbaki/RC thing seems unnecessary

i was the first vote on the fusco wagon and herded votes onto him. rc is trying to hand wave it like I hopped on for town cred. And, RC called my scum game bad two games ago, so if I'm such an easy read (even though he misread me in rapier), then I need to treat his terrible "mbaki is 100% scum" push as a scum claim. if hes town, playing with him is a fucking waste of time because hes scumreading me every game and this site circlejerks him so much now it's going to ruin playability.

[OkaPoka]

In fact if tmck remains un-cc'd

coalition is straight up better than 1 of 4

Not sure. Examples please.

Okay so if tmck is 100% town

Then WE pick the coalition of 4 people.

If we succeed in picking 4 town, we win.

If we fail, then we know there is at least one scum in the pool but also deny the scum the nk.

If we coalition twice, we have two separate 1 of 4 pools to work with that guarantee us 1 scum each. 1 of 4 will also guarantee us one scum after we finish out the coalition pools.

Three scum left. Win.

also are u scum

This is incorrect. We have three possible scenarios if coalition fails twice.

1-1-1 One in each coalition.
2-1-0 Two in the first coalition. One in the second. Zero left over.
1-2-0 One in the first coalition. Two in the second. Zero left over.

Not scum.

The superiority of doubling Coalition is the auto win scenario.

You double 1 of 4 you better hope you lynch scum in the first lynch otherwise tmck is dead.

[mbaki]

Please don't talk about blacklisting in the game.

are you kidding?

[OkaPoka]

Otherwise scum run it back again with the same 1 of 4 pool + one more

[chennisden]

Hey guys

Let's put our egos away please

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm just going to ignore mbaki and then win the game with my coalition.

ttyl

[OkaPoka]

Why you should not double 1 of 4 anymore

Scum give us 1 of 4 pool which guarantees us at least one scum.

Let's say there is 1 scum and three town. We have a 25% chance of hitting scum here.

If we hit scum, tmck can repick 1of4 and get nightkilled and we gucchi.

If we hit town, tmck repciks 1of4, draws nk.

Scum runs the same pool of 1of4 with 1 scum, 2 town, and one new person.

And we've learned nothing.

[chennisden]

1 of 4 gives control to scum hands. lets NOT do that.

[NanceFloor]

this mbaki/RC thing seems unnecessary

i was the first vote on the fusco wagon and herded votes onto him.

rc is trying to hand wave it like I hopped on for town cred. And, RC called my scum game bad two games ago, so if I'm such an easy read (even though he misread me in rapier), then I need to treat his terrible "mbaki is 100% scum" push as a scum claim. if hes town, playing with him is a fucking waste of time because hes scumreading me every game and this site circlejerks him so much now it's going to ruin playability.

I don't think the bolded is entirely correct.

I think he's wrong on you but I don't think his read is completely nonsensical when you consider you were trying to push tmck while he wanted fusco

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: coalition

[OkaPoka]

Titus you are misunderstanding what I mean

We coalition twice, with two pools of different four.

If we succeed any, we win ok.

If we fail both, then we know both pools have at least "1 scum"

Therefore we should PoE lynch out the coalition pool until we hit the "1 scum" from each pool. Then move to next pool.

This will leave us with 1 scum left, we will have lynched 2 scum in the PoE and 1 scum already.

Then we 1of4 for final PoE. Which guarantees us scum lynch,

[Titus]

Why you should not double 1 of 4 anymore

Scum give us 1 of 4 pool which guarantees us at least one scum.

Let's say there is 1 scum and three town. We have a 25% chance of hitting scum here.

If we hit scum, tmck can repick 1of4 and get nightkilled and we gucchi.

If we hit town, tmck repciks 1of4, draws nk.

Scum runs the same pool of 1of4 with 1 scum, 2 town, and one new person.

And we've learned nothing.

I can sheep this. If we do coalition, you agree that my scenarios are all valid? If we have that foundation, we can knock down how they should be drafted.