In post 2473, mbaki wrote:i'm going to not care about reads atm because i don't want to get angry, and focus on setup stuff which is largely more important right now
Any ability that allows scum to nk should be used after we double up on a non nk ability
aka doubling coalition
OK then, are you good with
Coalition
?
And
1of4
is risky, I did mention that... fully aware of there being NKs in my plan earlier.... it just gives a greater chance to lynch scum for
Coalition
, that was my thinking for THAT strategy.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
...and your preferred path to shortening the playerlist
oka
?
...and if its
Dance
, then by all means, entertain my exercise in 2412...
...or at least voice an alternative plan.
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RadiantCowbells wrote:dance is good because it makes coalition better
i don't want to 2 of 4 before coalition because 2 of 4 has op synergy with 1 of 4
i dont know if im reading this correctly? OP = overpowered?
and do you understand my grievances with
dance
?
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
i have very little faith in us lynching scum if we go with
dance
with this playerlist
and at least, 1 townie is going to die.
so if we're cutting the playerlist, yeah thanks, we're cutting down town that couldve been resolved another way or placed into
coalition
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
Lynch, its a waste
Treestump, its a waste. if you want to get the dead reads of myself or RC or whoever, use the call a friend option
Popcorn, lol why does this exist maybe i'm missing something but it seems just horrible??
Protect, worthless. In a different playerlist, this one could be useful, but not here
Arena, again, just kinda useless
Call a friend may come in handy late game, and remember that you can call a flipped hypo-town RC or a flipped me or a flipped whoever else to come solve LyLo from a conf town (among other things), but for
now and the near future
this goes in the useless category
This leaves
1of4
Coalition
Dance
Quiz
Rank
Reveal
Vengeful
Veto
I don't personally think we ever Dance. Like, maybe I'm missing, but the argument for Dance is it kills 2 people without a night kill. Guess what... Vengeful does the
same thing but lets town control
. The worst case with Vengeful is actually the best case; we lynch scum and they shoot tmck, 100% worth it. Otherwise, we lynch town and get two controlled kills in a row, rather than Dance which has chance.
Veto is very useful if we can all agree on a pool of 4. Perhaps we could Veto first then Vengeful... I assume scum doesn't get an additional nightkill on top of Veto? Possible.
Reveal is useful, but later, if we don't win before its null.
Rank is useful by spamming town, but more useful with 2 scum left.
I don't think I ever Dance.
1 of 4, hopefully we can save until there's 1 scum left. Otherwise, we can use it at 2 if we are really stuck. But it endgames. And to solve 1o f 4, if we mislynch we can use Ranked, to further narrow it down.
Coalition is always a strat to combat all of this, but not my personal choice. Perhaps could be combined.
I'm going to propose an actual plan soon, busy rn really just wanted to get thoughts out cause I seen a lot of stupid shit itt.
Also, to reiterate, why the fuck do people want Dance over Venge? If that's your strat, Venge straight up out classes it o.o
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Any ability that allows scum to nk should be used after we double up on a non nk ability
aka doubling coalition
+1
If scum is allowed even one NK, they will 100% take out either the repicker or the most obvious and useful townies. Our best chance is preventing this from happening.
i don't want to 2 of 4 before coalition because 2 of 4 has op synergy with 1 of 4
If mafia didn’t choose the pairs, I might agree with you. Scum will probably most likely pair weak scum with obvious townies and this will get them towncred for the bus and lose us probably the most useful and helpful townies. Your strength in all of the dance games, was in making lists that benefitted town, so why can’t scum do this in reverse?
Mbaki, I dont want to fight you, but your analysis is... not good... vengeful is like dance except it gives control BACK to scum if we lynch correctly... plus I dont get to ripick because it's not actually night. I know you might not like my playstyle, but you like actually do need my repick or you will be forced into some crappy choices
Also, how do people not get that the scum strategy for dance is going to be to pair scum with obvtown and conftown and to pair lhf together. We lynch lhf every time and then you know, actually know who the real scum pool is after that... and if they're idiots enough to pair themselves with lhf, they die... and if they're even more idiots and pair themselves together, then they die... it's like mechanically win win
