Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[Pink Ball]

Do you get nervous speaking to me, Danny boy? Wink wink

[chennisden]

moon grass you wont get townread by getting mad at NF

[Chemist1422]

hi I'm frozen as town AMA

[chennisden]

ok

[Chemist1422]

ok

not a question but yes

[chennisden]

can you vote a veto

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chem, Clem, Creature, PB

What Titus said about the PoE stuff a while ago sounded smart so I’m gonna sheep them

[Moongrass]

Creature who would you veto? We need a vote count.

[Moongrass]

VOTE: RC, NF, PB, Moon

Sorry PB, RC is right, the tradeoff is worth it.

I would use the repick to 1/4 twice. Use confirm to check controversial slots remaining. Use quiz when town is on the right track, if we ever get there.

Anybody who thinks Coalition is ever going to win this game is delusional.

[Titus]

VOTE: RC, NF, PB, Moon

Sorry PB, RC is right, the tradeoff is worth it.

I would use the repick to 1/4 twice. Use confirm to check controversial slots remaining. Use quiz when town is on the right track, if we ever get there.

Anybody who thinks Coalition is ever going to win this game is delusional.

That's a veto so bad you have to be town.

I don't plan on having coalition win. My plan has coalition creating two PoE pools.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: RC, NF, PB, Moon

Sorry PB, RC is right, the tradeoff is worth it.

I would use the repick to 1/4 twice. Use confirm to check controversial slots remaining. Use quiz when town is on the right track, if we ever get there.

Anybody who thinks Coalition is ever going to win this game is delusional.

That's a veto so bad you have to be town.

I don't plan on having coalition win. My plan has coalition creating two PoE pools.

no.

[NanceFloor]

There was no protown reason to veto Maria and then you have yet to provide those alleged “scummy” posts of hers to explain your reasoning but you obviously can’t since there’s nothing remotely scummy about her posting here.

You're a broken record with no brain. You keep yelling and now I get why. People are actually stupid enough to listen to you.

I explained why I veto'd her and you can go suck a duck if you think I have to justify anything to you. Do town progress on their reads, yes, do town have to act like town and justify everything they do, no. Am I the scummiest slot, no. None of your reasons are reasons I'm scum, just reasons that we don't see the game the same way. If you are town, in future don't bury someone you scumread because you could be wrong. If you really tunnel like this as town I'll avoid future games because you're playing like a starving blind man who's down to eat anything and that makes the game unfun as hell. All scum have to do is coast on your bad pushes.

Insulting me doesn’t get you tr, do better.

[NanceFloor]

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t have anyone in the failed coalition in this list?

If the veto list was Ank's slot, Clem, Chem and me, what do you think would happen?

you and {chem/ank} would die

Exactly

This is why Titus wanting to veto 4 coalition slots is bad.

I happen to think Creature is possible scum, particularly with his reaction to my suggestion. Ank didn't want to play anymore and at least 1 town would die.

Then, we get the strategic benefits later too.

I didn’t agree with his veto picks because they didn’t have any coalition members in it.

[NanceFloor]

Maybe RC is right? Moon > Maria 100%.

No, Moon seems to be doing something while Maria doesn't.

Like what?

[NanceFloor]

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I'm thinking Chem/Clem/Maria/TD

I don’t understand the Maria scumreads.

[NanceFloor]

PB I'm getting worried about you.

I'm not concerned about your worrying, you've been worried since I replaced in, I think you've said at least three times things oriented to me like "will you put some effort?" or "what's your opinion on this or that?". I replaced in a game with 180 pages on a weekend, I'm not planning to change things drastically on this game even if my opinion is very very different to the most active slots.

You want something from me? I'll give you two and a half things:

1. I don't like the coalition thing 'cause people is being too agreable on including 3 players who are usually mislynched because of personality and gamestyle traits instead of what they've contributed; that gives the scumteam a scapegoat if everyone in that pool is town. Overkill is always scummy, Clem I can get a read on him if I get the motivation but we all know how Clem plays, and Chem we just finished a game where the scumteam was planning to leave him alive until LyLo 'cause he was mislynchable through the entire game, because he was always behind and "scum coasting" as someone said here".

2. Nancefloor is very likely scum. Dann is in the backseat drinking his matcha tea while Nancy pushes whatever the game gives her. I have experience with both players, and I have a scumread on both separately and it happens to be they're playing in the same slot. I can give a more "in detail" read about Nancy specifically if needed, but it's practically the same read I made in Undertale D1. I see much more similarities to that game than Starcraft 3 where we played together as the mighty Powerpuff Girls.

0,5. If Nancefloor is scum, which is very likely, RC is probably their partner, and that would explain many things about the gamestate right now. Since this is a conditional it's not a full "thing", but it's a thing nonetheless.

So no, I'm not happy with the 4 players who are in the veto right now, 'cause it doesn't include my two biggest scumreads right now and includes 3 out of 4 players I think are town only because of the gamestate ('cause I haven't read anything about them except Moon): Moon, Chem and Clem. I actually think Overkill is a good inclusion 'cause, of what I've seen, he could be scum with Nancefloor because of the latest interactions. Also, including 3 town/1 scum in the veto means the scumteam kills Moon and probably Chem and they don't have to worry about Overkill until later.

Are you for real? How are you sr me here? In Undertale you actually valid reasons because I was actually scum in that game but I am 100% town here and your read on us, practically defies disbelief. Everytime Ank replaces out of a game I’m in, I always wind up regretting it. :/. I likely have never been more obvtown than I am here. I am extremely disappointed in you. It should be beyond obvious to you that I’m town here. *smdh*

[Titus]

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I'm thinking Chem/Clem/Maria/TD

I don’t understand the Maria scumreads.

Maria replaced Johnny

[NanceFloor]

Soooooooo

veto: nancefloor, radiantcowbells, moongrass, PB

No, why would you veto obvtown? How does it help you to have scum kill us, because make no mistake RC and us will be killed and then we lose the game.

In what world do you think us and Moon are ever SvS here? Use your head. If Moon is my partner, do you really think I’d bus here?

[NanceFloor]

rc should be nowhere near anyone's vetos

+1

and neither should us. I’m not getting fucking mislynched. I couldn’t be more bleeding town. Like what more does it take?

[NanceFloor]

what if RC/NF is TvT tho

I know we’re town and I don’t understand why RC is being sr? No wonder he hates mafia so much. I felt that way too after my recent mislynch and I’m not fucking letting that happen to me ever again.

[NanceFloor]

Uh? You're assuming RC is town but pushing him like he's scum. You're assuming I'm scum so putting me in the veto makes no sense as I'm either dead or confirmed scum with the worst logic possible. How can you sheep someone who's overtly not playing to victory? Im confused. My brain can't even.

So to simplify, what you're saying is, If I'm left behind I'm confirmed scum and if RC is left behind you'll townread him and sheep? Why bother putting him in at all then?

I wouldn't mind being in the veto with RC and NF if you added TD or Chenn instead of PB. Though you would need to flip all 4 veto before it actually meant anything.

Hmmmmm
Also, rc is not fighting NF, nance is sheeping rc and rc is shielding NF from criticism

Maybe because he doesn’t want to be an idiot gamethrowing WOAT and doesn’t want to mislynch obvtown?

[NanceFloor]

But that's not why I'm doing this. It seems like two potentially strong players each are sring each other. Vetoing has a high possibility of forcing scum to reveal themselves

Can you walk me through how this will force them to reveal themselves?

Either you and pb or nance and rc are scum. You would be forced to strongman rc and nance or they would be forced to strongman you.

I think Moon is scum. I don’t know wtf PB is other than dead wrong. I would really love it if he were scum here, because it completely blows my mind that he could ever be so insanely blind to ever seriously think I’m scum here.

[NanceFloor]

Also, btw, if rc and nance are alive, we confirm rc by lynching nance and if shes town, then I repick coalition and die and rc runs the game

Hell fucking no! Don’t ever fucking sigh up for another game I’m in if you’re seriously this terrible at reading people. No wonder RC is disgusted with you. I initially thought it was an overreaction but now I totally get it.

[NanceFloor]

Moon, I assume by what I'm reading on this page that you agree on scum!RC?

If you seriously think there’s even a 0.000001% chance I’m scum here, than I’m not trusting your reads on anyone else in this game.

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: RC NF Moongrass PB

What are you doing? You know scum will kill us right? Because PB’s reads are shit and Moon is scum.