Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[0verki11]

Hi so
Moongrass, Chemist, Clemency and someone else always coaltion
moongrass is probably WIFOM antispewing so just dont listen to a word they say right now.

[themilkcartonkid]

@Nancy, I'm asking you kindly to stop harassing me, thank you.

[Chemist1422]

this game got toxic kinda fast

Hi so
Moongrass, Chemist, Clemency and someone else always coaltion
moongrass is probably WIFOM antispewing so just dont listen to a word they say right now.

hmm

what do you think about titus's coalition plan?

[Chemist1422]

Could you explain that to me like I'm 2 years old? I'm actually 3 but I skipped kindergarden

Sure. When a coalition fails, there must be scum inside the group. In this case,

themilkcartonkid, Skygazer, RadiantCowbells, Creature, NanceFloor, Ankamius (now you), Chemist1422, Clemency

has at least 1 scum.

If we coalition the left overs, then we either win or we know there is at least 1 scum in there.

There are three scum alive.

Therefore, mathematically there can only be 3:0, 2:1 or 1:2 as possibilities.

Coalitioning the leftovers means eliminating 3-0 in most likely scenarios. If it is 3-0 we just win.

In order to coalition the leftovers, we need two dead from the original coalition.

That means the veto needs to consist of four slots from the original coalition.

[Chemist1422]

Anyone putting moongrass in the coalition instead of creature/PB should probably read this

[Creature]

For it to be 3:0 gotta be hardcore pessimism.

[Titus]

For it to be 3:0 gotta be hardcore pessimism.

That coalition was hardcore bad.

Second, eliminating possibilities is how town wins.

VC please

[chennisden]

Oh look its almost like scum put TD with TMCK so TD would be an easy mislynch later on!

[chennisden]

tmck was the leading wagon d1

[chennisden]

WTF MOONGRASS NEVER GOES IN COALITION

[chennisden]

When this game is over im not forgiving shoshin for not being here

[chennisden]

Cuz Shoshin finds every wolf

[NanceFloor]

Hi so
Moongrass, Chemist, Clemency and someone else always coaltion
moongrass is probably WIFOM antispewing so just dont listen to a word they say right now.

I think, anyone who has Maria in veto is being antitown and gamethrowing, so I’d look there first.

[NanceFloor]

@Nancy, I'm asking you kindly to stop harassing me, thank you.

Can I ask you to stop trying to kill obvtown?

I apologize for the way I expressed myself but I still nevertheless stand by the basic sentiment. You had some brilliant ideas - combine consensus tr with weak town coalition members but you wanting to veto me and RC was terrible antitown play. Sorry if that upsets you.

[Skygazer]

oh cool nance is town

[NanceFloor]

this game got toxic kinda fast

Hi so
Moongrass, Chemist, Clemency and someone else always coaltion
moongrass is probably WIFOM antispewing so just dont listen to a word they say right now.

hmm

what do you think about titus's coalition plan?

I think PB isn’t scum and should not be in veto. Yet another reason why Maria is obvtown. I know that PB misconstrued this as me waffling but my point was not to hedge on him but rather to stress the point that Moon and PB are never SvS because Ank’s interactions with both Moon and Mbaki were anti-partnery.

I find Moon’s recent dumbtell about repicker unconvincing since it’s on page 1 of this setup and he has been in this game long enough to have read the setup. I do however believe PB’s dumbtell because I think that’s not easily fakable. It read genuine to me. Plus, he sounds good tonally.

Wrt to Creature, him tr Moon and vetoing Maria pings me a bit. I’m also suspicious of him thinking my slot could possibly be scum here. He’s played enough games with me to realize I’m obvtown here. Still I would rather exclude him from 2nd coalition than veto him because his point about scum killing the strongest members of the coalition over the weak still holds.

[NanceFloor]

oh cool nance is town

So is Maria and no one should have her in veto. The fact that Moon does should make you especially wary of that.

[Skygazer]

UNVOTE:

[Skygazer]

i mean distancing is a thing but

[NanceFloor]

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t have anyone in the failed coalition in this list?

If the veto list was Ank's slot, Clem, Chem and me, what do you think would happen?

you and {chem/ank} would die

Exactly

Anyone putting moongrass in the coalition instead of creature/PB should probably read this

Hmmmm . . .

You do know that PB/Creature would likely get killed over you/Clem in this scenario, right?

You specifically mentioning Moon here, also makes me wonder.

[NanceFloor]

i mean distancing is a thing but

If he’s distancing anyone here, it’s not Maria. He wants her dead, so she can’t be in 2nd coalition. There is absolutely no protown reason to veto Maria.

[Moongrass]

I'd rather base my veto off the dance pairings than put 2 town from the coalition up for the kill just to waste our repick on having another coalition fail. That's me though, you were all going to do what you wanted anyway.

[NanceFloor]

Oh look its almost like scum put TD with TMCK so TD would be an easy mislynch later on!

Or scum put their lowest hanging fruit with an IC to help them live a little longer

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

Also, I'm not going to read the last 7 pages or whatever beyond skimming nor do I intend on spamming the thread anymore than I have to responding to anything

in regards to PB I still town read the slot I just thought his reads are bad ( so i apologize if I said anything hurtful that was not my intention beyond some sass )

the blind confidence with which he pushed is also +town imo albeit frustratingly

- dann

[Creature]

I'm bored.