Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

Shoshin · Post Post #2425 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 2:51 pm

Emperor, do you agree with my reasoning that makes Eyes town?

Shoshin · Post Post #2426 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 2:59 pm

In post 2422, Emperor flippyNips wrote:I don’t know who started the wagon tho. I thought there was a post that had said “why the fuck hasn’t Worm been a wagon yet” then from there it took off & there was no turning back.

That post was from NSG.

Emperor flippyNips · Post Post #2427 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 5:54 pm

In post 2417, Shoshin wrote:I will never lynch Icon or Eyes.

Icon, because the amount of effort Fumuki put into the game isn't something that comes from scum Fumuki.

Eyes, because GIF's death. GIF was probably killed because scum thought he was cop, and GIF's posts strongly suggest that he had an innocent result on Eyes if read them from this perspective.

In post 2425, Shoshin wrote:Emperor, do you agree with my reasoning that makes Eyes town?

So your’re saying Eyes is town cos someone who was not the cop hinted that they had a innocent result on Eyes?

Titus · Post Post #2428 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 5:56 pm

I think I really am too old for such nonsense. Seems largely a generational divide I think but the only cop hints I look for are in living players or dead flipped cops. Anything else is tea leaves.

Clemency · Post Post #2429 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:04 pm

In post 2424, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@
Clem
&
Icon

Have you been able to skim the game at all?

i was planning on that today after class

Emperor flippyNips · Post Post #2430 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:06 pm

In post 2426, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2422, Emperor flippyNips wrote:I don’t know who started the wagon tho. I thought there was a post that had said “why the fuck hasn’t Worm been a wagon yet” then from there it took off & there was no turning back.
That post was from NSG.

I checked their ISO earlier & didnt see that. I just saw them place a naked vote. Can you qoute it?

Emperor flippyNips · Post Post #2431 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:08 pm

In post 2429, Clemency wrote:
In post 2424, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@
Clem
&
Icon

Have you been able to skim the game at all?
i was planning on that today after class

Iconeum · Post Post #2432 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:35 pm

woop woop

Iconeum · Post Post #2433 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:42 pm

Shoshin who are your buddies?

Iconeum · Post Post #2434 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:45 pm

I haven't fully read all 90+ pages yet, but quicly read through everything and also the most interesting ISO's

My nr 1 townread is emperor flippynippies

Scum is Shoshin and we'll know his buddies once he answers my question above

Iconeum · Post Post #2435 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:46 pm

Have there been claims/counterclaims?
Other interesting events I might have missed?

Titus · Post Post #2436 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:53 pm

In post 2433, Iconeum wrote:Shoshin who are your buddies?

You can be the third vote on his wagon.

Titus · Post Post #2437 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:53 pm

In post 2435, Iconeum wrote:Have there been claims/counterclaims?
Other interesting events I might have missed?

No.

Iconeum · Post Post #2438 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2019 7:19 pm

9 alive, 6v3. So we have 1 wrong lynch left.

Cop should have 2 clears, and with 2 PR left we can effectively clear 4/9 slots.
That gives a nice lynch pool of 5 players. Lynch scum, cop dies.

D4 it's 5v2, with 3 confirmed town. I think this gives the best odds for town.

Massclaim is what I suggest. Thoughts?

Shoshin · Post Post #2439 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 1:40 am

Icon, what are your concerns about me?

Shoshin · Post Post #2440 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 1:49 am

@Emperor:

In post 1803, northsidegal wrote:i'm rarely sure of anything.

not especially sure, in this situation, but enough that i believed that it was warranted and did it in the first place.

i'm voting him right now half because i don't like his celica vote and half because i find it odd that he hasn't been wagoned.

This is where NSG says it's odd that Worm hasn't been wagoned.

Shoshin · Post Post #2441 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 1:51 am

In post 2427, Emperor flippyNips wrote:So your’re saying Eyes is town cos someone who was not the cop hinted that they had a innocent result on Eyes?

Yes, because scum likely tried to kill the cop, and if scum thought GIF was cop, it means they thought he had an innocent result on Eyes.

Shoshin · Post Post #2442 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:03 am

If Eyes is scum, you have to believe that scum killed GIF despite thinking that GIF wasn't a cop.

Iconeum · Post Post #2443 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:10 am

In post 2439, Shoshin wrote:Icon, what are your concerns about me?

the colour of your role pm

who are your buddies?

Shoshin · Post Post #2444 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:12 am

My role PM is green. My teammates are you & Eyes.

Iconeum · Post Post #2445 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:12 am

and you are trying to pocket the replacements with bad reasons

-activity based meta read on my predecessor
-WIFOM read on eyes

Shoshin · Post Post #2446 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 am

Eyes wasn't a replacement.

And I'm not pocketing you. I'm in the unfortunate position where I townread you despite the fact that you scumread for it.

Shoshin · Post Post #2447 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:14 am

Fumuki (the person you replaced) was my strongest townread yesterday.

Shoshin · Post Post #2448 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:14 am

Why do you disagree with the reasoning on Eyes? Saying it's WIFOM doesn't mean it's wrong -- everything in mafia is WIFOM.

Iconeum · Post Post #2449 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 2:19 am

Your strongest townread is based on level of activity?
Do you think we should massclaim?

Your entire NK on GiF theory is based on the assumption scum thought him to be the cop… it ends right there. Townreading someone based on this alone in a game this size is just wrong and it's scummy.