Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[Clemency]

VOTE: eyes
now we're talking

[Iconeum]

shoshin, you know i'm town. Work with me. We both know cop claim is highly likely faked, but it will prove itself. It makes a fine lynch tomorrow. Help us with eyes first

[Iconeum]

Egix cop is either false or true

If false, he will be alive tomorrow and we lynch him.
If true, he dies by NK. We will have this information to work with. Small chance scum goes crazy and tries to WIFOM the situation by not killing the cop, we still lynch Egix but he shares his result and we have a bunch of confs.

[Iconeum]

For the record, I still think best play is for cop to cc so we are assured a scum lynch today. It provides us the best chance of winning the game. With no cc, I have to assume Egix is actually the cop and treat his results as accurate.

[Egix96]

actually, why don't we just try to lynch eyes?
the cop claim will prove itself by being (or not being) alive tomorrow lol

VOTE: eyes

Yo egix, you have the unique opportunity to survive your claim by voting eyes here.

Why thank you

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eyes without a face

Reading back atm

[Iconeum]

Egix, most importantly I want you to explain why you chose your targets for copping

[Egix96]

Why are you voting me, Egix?

I've been scumreading you all game. Why shouldn't I be?

Explain the reasoning behind your claimed targets for investigation, Egix?

I decided to check Cowbells N1 because he's a very good scum player and difficult to read accurately. I didn't want to spend the rest of the game feeling paranoid about him.

As for flippy, I was having difficulty in getting a good read on him, and based on what I've read re:how to play cop I thought it would be best to check someone who was middle of the field, so to speak, rather than a scum read.

pedit: steady on now!

[Iconeum]

Why didn't you try to soft during the day that eyes wasn't cop checked?

[Egix96]

Why didn't you try to soft during the day that eyes wasn't cop checked?

During the current Day you mean?

I guess I hadn't realised that I should've done that. Sorry

[Iconeum]

Ahh, so much to read, so little time... Just wanna respond to these quickly:

i thought that egix was scum in this game when i thought he was scum in 2070, i think that he's town now + i think his read change on me knowing my alignment in that game probably comes from town as well.

Mmm you're not wrong in saying that my read on you has changed since D1, but what I was saying was that I don't think Shoshin should still be scumreading you if Fumuki is right in saying that you were a driving force in moving the lynch from her to Wizard. (From her perspective, what reason does scum!you have for moving from one townie to another?) To me it kinda seems like a perspective slip for Shosh.

I thought she was scum being advised in the scum PT to crumb doctor but was doing it very wrong.

That's not possible, scum PT doesn't open until N1 in this setup.

Looking into Egix ISO, this pops up and can actually prove his N1 cop on RC.

Why have you been scumreading me?

No offence intended, but have you been reading my posts? I thought I'd been explaining myself quite well but if not, I apologise.

All right then, if I'm wrong on you and you're actually town, then now's your chance to show it.

- Can you remember why you said "I'd feel tempted to self-vote in that case, RC." in post#36? Because I don't think that's a very towny attitude to have.

- You seem to ask the question "if you assume I'm town, who are the scum?" or some variation of it, often. What do you intend to achieve by asking it?

- P#798 - "I'm also sort of lazy this game because I have the backup of RC & NSG, so I feel less urgency about sorting alignments." Why those two players specifically?

- P#978 - "You're scum until you stop scumreading me." Can you remember why you said that?

- P#986 - "I don't have a solid read on either of RC or NSG." Then why were you using them as backup?

This is from looking through the first ~half of your ISO. That should be enough for the time being.

What are your reads, Egix?

{NSG, Freezer}
{Cowbells, Fumuki}
{Eyes, Wormy}

Flippy - If I be honest I don't really have a read on him atm

{Creature}
{Titus slot, Shosh}

Egix, why did you not put Cowbells as top townread here?

[Egix96]

Ahh, so much to read, so little time... Just wanna respond to these quickly:

i thought that egix was scum in this game when i thought he was scum in 2070, i think that he's town now + i think his read change on me knowing my alignment in that game probably comes from town as well.

Mmm you're not wrong in saying that my read on you has changed since D1, but what I was saying was that I don't think Shoshin should still be scumreading you if Fumuki is right in saying that you were a driving force in moving the lynch from her to Wizard. (From her perspective, what reason does scum!you have for moving from one townie to another?) To me it kinda seems like a perspective slip for Shosh.

I thought she was scum being advised in the scum PT to crumb doctor but was doing it very wrong.

That's not possible, scum PT doesn't open until N1 in this setup.

Looking into Egix ISO, this pops up and can actually prove his N1 cop on RC.

Why have you been scumreading me?

No offence intended, but have you been reading my posts? I thought I'd been explaining myself quite well but if not, I apologise.

All right then, if I'm wrong on you and you're actually town, then now's your chance to show it.

- Can you remember why you said "I'd feel tempted to self-vote in that case, RC." in post#36? Because I don't think that's a very towny attitude to have.

- You seem to ask the question "if you assume I'm town, who are the scum?" or some variation of it, often. What do you intend to achieve by asking it?

- P#798 - "I'm also sort of lazy this game because I have the backup of RC & NSG, so I feel less urgency about sorting alignments." Why those two players specifically?

- P#978 - "You're scum until you stop scumreading me." Can you remember why you said that?

- P#986 - "I don't have a solid read on either of RC or NSG." Then why were you using them as backup?

This is from looking through the first ~half of your ISO. That should be enough for the time being.

What are your reads, Egix?

{NSG, Freezer}
{Cowbells, Fumuki}
{Eyes, Wormy}

Flippy - If I be honest I don't really have a read on him atm

{Creature}
{Titus slot, Shosh}

Egix, why did you not put Cowbells as top townread here?

I was trying not to make it too obvious to the scum.

I figured that putting Cowbells above Eyes would be enough to make it apparent which of the two I had checked.

[Iconeum]

why didn't you vote shoshin for the counterclaim?

[Egix96]

why didn't you vote shoshin for the counterclaim?

My vote was already on her I believe.

[Iconeum]

Fuck me but i'm starting to believe the cop claim here.

From Egix perspective there should be 3 scum in 6 slots (Ico, Shoshin, Titus, Creature, Eyes, Clem). There's nothing inconsistent in Egix play vs these slots. Pushing Shoshin, Eyes.

IF THERE IS ANOTHER COP, YOU MUST CC TODAY.
Otherwise I will treat Egix as conftown, together with pops and NippleFlips

[Creature]

IF THERE IS ANOTHER COP, YOU MUST CC TODAY.

^

[Creature]

It's pretty likely scum will hit the cop tonight anyway even if it isn't Egix.

[Iconeum]

If that's true, real cop has to out results

[Creature]

More that not counterclaiming Egix today will likely screw town up today.

[Iconeum]

Exactly. I feel that a cop would have already jumped on this opportunity to kill scum, which is why i'm inclined to believe Egix despite everything.

[Iconeum]

If Egix is cop, we should be good in lynching eyes then Titus.

[Creature]

Eyes, Shoshin, Clemency, Titus left

Not considering you yet.

[Creature]

I think it's Eyed Shoshin and Clemency

[Creature]

Clemency seemed to be softdefending Shoshin

[Iconeum]

VOTE: eyes
now we're talking

You think they are buddies?

[Iconeum]

And if Egix is cop, why the fuck did Shoshin counterclaim? Scum doesn't do that. They NK the claim.