Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[BNL]

Vote Count 4.2.7

Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, Pink Ball

(5): Titus, Chemist1422, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, Creature

Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, Moongrass

(4): NanceFloor, Moongrass, 0verki11, Time Devil

0verki11, Chemist1422, chennisden, Time Devil

(1): MariaR

Chemist1422, Clemency, Moongrass, Pink Ball

(1): chennisden

Chemist1422, chennisden, Clemency, Creature

(1): Succinct

Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, Skygazer

(1): Pink Ball

Not Voting (1): Clemency

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to veto.

The deadline for vetoing is 25 May 3am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-05-25 03:00:00)

Mod notes:
Succinct replaces Tohru
The vote in 5398 is not counted because it was made from the wrong account.

[Skygazer]

hi succinct ur conftown

[chennisden]

hmm

[NanceFloor]

You need at least 3 from coalition for the titus plan to work.

Scum is extremely aware of the mechanics and it really is not in their best interests to point this out.

Yes it is

Scum gets completely destroyed by the OP mechanics unless they are literally false confirmed town.

Not pointing something out /= contradicting anything. I’m not tr Moon but I think TD is objectively scummier.

[NanceFloor]

4 coalition veto is the point...

Consensus veto is good imo. Our reads are forced to get better.

We'll redo the coalition tomorrow and have a gameplan.

Let's assume there is only 1 scum in the coalition. (there can be 2 or 3 but it isn't likely)

There must be a townie that survives the veto.

Town maybe eliminates the veto if the second Coalition fails, leading to a mislynch. (or 2 mislynches if the veto is horrible)

-TL

If we assume 1 scum in the original coalition, we wind up doing the second one one the outsiders.

We then look for the scum in the first coalition and second coalition. 1 v 4 then triggers. The last scum is forced to pick his viable mislynched forever.

The plan remains unchanged.

Explain to me why 4 is so much better than 3? I understand anything less than 3 is pointless but why is 4 >3?

[Titus]

Four forces scum to kill two in the coalition. That is the foundation for dividing the game. If scum kill the person not in the coalition, we cannot nearly divide the game.

[Moongrass]

We can if you leave the tmck slot out right?

[Skygazer]

i wish we knew when the deadline was

[NanceFloor]

Four forces scum to kill two in the coalition. That is the foundation for dividing the game. If scum kill the person not in the coalition, we cannot nearly divide the game.

Does it not matter, if you’re convinced that only 3 possible slots in coalition, contain the possibility of being scum? That’s in essence my dilemma. I don’t think scum is outside of Chemist/Creature/Clemency in coalition.

[NanceFloor]

i wish we knew when the deadline was

Mod notes:
In post 5287, NanceFloor wrote:
@mod, has Maria been prodded?

Yes. She will be replaced soon if she doesn't respond.
Depending on the situation, I may extend the deadline.

I’m assuming probably another 24 hrs after Maria replacement.

Like atp, we can’t even get new repicker to select coalition, so if we maj before Succinct even replaces into the game or less of a factor (before Maria slot gets replaced), we will lose that possibility.

I don’t for the life of me understand why Tohru would replace out. IC is probably my favourite role.

[Skygazer]

hmmmm

[Skygazer]

was under the impression mariar was keeping her slot cause she posted again and BNL crossed out the replacement request in that thread

[Skygazer]

if chem/creature are scum together then their dance pairing probs wouldnt have happened?? right ??

if it was a risky gambit considering the creature townreads then it would explain the counterwagons/resistance to that wagon during the dance but aaaaa

[Moongrass]

Creature is town.

[Skygazer]

i feel like after succinct repicks coalition

(succinct you need to repick coalition here)

there isnt much left for us to use to get us flips other than like reveal and treestump

[BNL]

MariaR will be keeping her slot.

The new deadline is 25 May 3am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-05-25 03:00:00)

[Skygazer]

i keep having these moments of wanting to gamesolve before getting demotivated by the lack of town agency or demotivated by RC calling me bad town today making me lose confidence in my reads and just shit that makes me lose interest ig

[Skygazer]

UNVOTE:

[NanceFloor]

Creature is town.

Who is scum then? We need at least three, you said so yourself and I hard tr everyone other than those 3.

[NanceFloor]

i feel like after succinct repicks coalition

(succinct you need to repick coalition here)

there isnt much left for us to use to get us flips other than like reveal and treestump

+1

[NanceFloor]

i keep having these moments of wanting to gamesolve before getting demotivated by the lack of town agency or demotivated by RC calling me bad town today making me lose confidence in my reads and just shit that makes me lose interest ig

<3

I think you’re doing great. Don’t let anyone affect your self-confidence.

[NanceFloor]

if chem/creature are scum together then their dance pairing probs wouldnt have happened?? right ??

if it was a risky gambit considering the creature townreads then it would explain the counterwagons/resistance to that wagon during the dance but aaaaa

I have no clue. Thing is we need at least three slots in veto from failed coalition or it’s a bust.

I’m not voting RC or you under any circumstances and I really think PB is town, so I’m having trouble with Titus’ veto but as I said, I will vote it over veto fail, because that would be the worst outcome. I trust Tohru’s reads. She was town MVP in a game where Ank was town and Creature was scum and she correctly nailed scum in that game and she tr PB/Ank here and sr Creature. So, I’m fine with my current vote.

[Succinct]

hi succinct ur conftown

Uh-oh.

Wasn't planning on reading 200+ pages, wanted to rely on a summary.
Do I need to?

[Moongrass]

Succint you don't need to read the whole thing - Read the setup and the Mod's ISO to see which events have been played and who's been flipped already.

The current plan is that you repick the coalition event tonight after we veto.

[RadiantCowbells]

I want to interact with mafia in a more positive way but I feel like that's a two way street