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[PenguinPower]

[Vorkuta]

MOONLOGIC, really?

No.... your "schadd 3 rvs lynches" case is moonlogic (to US anyway), no matter how much you try and explain it

also no offense, I just find the term to be funny

MAYBE it does to you: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as your first game's RVS stage went completely differently, but after a few games here you'll know that it's quite easy for people to RVS someone to L-3/L-2 and for it to be more or less COMPLETELY NAI (non alignment indicative)

Also scum hunting in RVS is just funny.
Like redemption: let's have players A,B,&C be scum.
So they decide "hey, let's all try and get the player D lynch IMMEDIATELY, as soon as the game starts.".
All 3 players vote for player D.
What do you think happens next, and is this a good play?

[MaryJoLisa]

VOTE: MaryJoLisa
This feels like scum having trouble coming up with an entrance

That is probably the scummiest post in the game so far. It is referring to MaryJoLisa pointing out the three horsemen that actually lynched Schadd at the same time for no reason and calling it a scum entrance while she pointed out what no one had the balls to say.

Just to be clear because this whole thing originated with me. The Normal setup possibilities include informed roles (and a bunch of other shit I don't yet fully understand the nuances of). I don't know to what extent "informed" means, but it's been my experience that asking questions about what's possible *very often* results in answers like, "that can't be ruled out of the setup." Because this attribute is different than the games I'm more familiar with, I felt it perfectly reasonable to wonder if Penguin Power didn't have some information provided in his PM or other people didn't have information on Penguin Power's alignment that might lead them to sheep off his vote.

As far as I'm concerned, fire breathing, poison dart wielding unicorns could be in play and it's all good as long as it's "balanced" on the other side. (I get that this isn't a theme game. It was just an example.)

So Redemption, I didn't *see* something obvious that other people saw and they just didn't have the ovaries to say something. They probably just have a better idea of what is more likely or less likely to happen.

[schadd_]

gamma is in prod range

[schadd_]

i wanna make a rule that the only roleplay alts allowed are cardi b (which i did and everyone liked) and torgonitoh

[LuckyOtter]

Will be back later tonight to reassess redemption. But I still don't see any good case against gamma other than being a lurky lou

Performer I don't have an alt but for full disclosure I played awhile ago under neko2086. That was like, over 10 years ago tho.

NM what's up? You managed to formulate a coherent question for redemption so maybe you can afford me one.

[Not_Mafia]

No

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 1.04

Redemption:

LuckyOtter

Psyche:

Performer:

Not_Mafia:

MaryJoLisa

Detective Pikachu:

ChannelDelibird:

Gamma Emerald:

Lil Uzi Vert, PenguinPower, Detective Pikachu, Redemption, Vorkuta

LuckyOtter:

Psyche, schadd_

MaryJoLisa:

Gamma Emerald, ChannelDelibird, Not_Mafia, Performer

Vorkuta:

Lil Uzi Vert:

PenguinPower:

schadd_:

Not Voting:

No one

With

13

votes,

7

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-06-01 20:55:23)

Gamma Emerald is prodded.
Please vote the usernames not some other names that are not usernames.

[Vorkuta]

Please vote the usernames not some other names that are not usernames

[MaryJoLisa]

Please vote the usernames not some other names that are not usernames

If that's the case, NM's vote on me shouldn't count. My username isn't Ting Ting.

[PenguinPower]

Fair call, MJL.

NM's vote should be on Vorkuta.

[Vorkuta]

I don't know to what extent "informed" means

I'll stop you right there
-typically if town is informed about stuff (ie- there are 4 mafia in this game

triggered

), town says so with their first post.
-if you were informed (via role PM) about someone being conf!town how'd you re/act? My guess is that you'll leave them alone, have like 1/2 interactions with them, and never do anything about it UNTIL they're like @L-1. I doubt you'd act on it D1.
-COME ON REALLY?
Is this your first game where RVS lasts for several pages for some people and more for others?
I'm giving Redemption quite a few newb!town points, but a quick skim of your activity in other games makes it difficult to give you the same courtesy.

NM's vote should be on Vorkuta.

Hey no wait
Come on N_M: you had 1 decent question in you. Do you have a few more decent votes left in you?

inb4 "no"

[PenguinPower]

That said, get off NM and do something more productive.

p-edit
@MJL

[Vorkuta]

Redemption: LuckyOtter

Zuckerberg

:
Performer:
Not_Mafia: MaryJoLisa

@MOD

- please do that thing where you cross this out and replace him with Psyche

[PenguinPower]

-typically if town is informed about stuff (ie- there are 4 mafia in this game triggered), town says so with their first post.

This is disingenuous as it depends on the information they are informed of. It doesn't always make sense for town to communicate the information they have (i.e. There is a town tracker/watcher/cop/etc in the game).

-if you were informed (via role PM) about someone being conf!town how'd you re/act? My guess is that you'll leave them alone, have like 1/2 interactions with them, and never do anything about it UNTIL they're like @L-1. I doubt you'd act on it D1.

Entirely dependent on the player.

ITT: Vorkuta loses townpoints.

[Vorkuta]

Entirely dependent on the player.

imgspoiler seeing as we're gifing like mad

Spoiler:

I asked her to put herself in a hypothetical informed!PP's shoes as a thought experiment.

But yeah ok. In that

triggered

game, I was informed that "If I targetted mafia (with my vig shot), they would die", and I literally only understood this to mean something like "there are no doctors/roleblockers" @end game.
Fair.

Also you can take your town points and shove them somewhere cold.

[PenguinPower]

Your gifing skills are weak and your town points lower.

[PenguinPower]

That was more a joke...your town points aren't as low as your gifing skills.

[PenguinPower]

To be clear on where I stand re: your town/scum status and you gifing skill level.

[Vorkuta]

Spoiler:

pedit

Spoiler:

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIFF GIF POINTS

also something tells me I shouldn't be doing this to a big scary mod...

[PenguinPower]

It's cool.

Spoiler: PostGame

[LuckyOtter]

Okiedokie then. I'm not getting the townvibes off of Redemption like everyone else apparently is, but I'm not going to be able to fully sort him today either. UNVOTE:

@LUV: You still on board with the Gamma vote? If so, why?

@Psyche: you going to play or?

As of now I'll join the MJL wagon before Gamma but I'm not sold on either. We've got time to get another wagon going so howsabout VOTE: LUV. Any takers? He's contributed almost nothing of substance so far.

[MaryJoLisa]

Okiedokie then. I'm not getting the townvibes off of Redemption like everyone else apparently is, but I'm not going to be able to fully sort him today either.

I'm not getting town vibes off Redemption. I don't really know what i'm getting, but they're definitely not *town* vibes.

[PenguinPower]

LUV is town and you are bad.

[PenguinPower]

I mean...I will do a side-by-side ISO compare if you want me to PetRock.