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[Psyche]

could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

this DP wagon, this GE wagon

[Redemption]

So much people talking shit about my "logic" that they don't even bother reading me properly lol, wtf is this game.

I'll try to give a global answer to all that I saw. Commencing with Performer asking me for colored scum-town scale of everyone in the game. Will do tomorrow m8.

I'll recap my so-called logic for the last and ultimate time, and btw Vorkuta, it won't make sense no matter how much time I repeat it because you won't make sense of it no matter how much time I'll repeat it. And Psyche, I'll advice you to acknowledge that I'm new to MS and not to the mafia game. If I turned to be right, you better be ready to tuck your tail between your legs just like every narrow-minded individuals that can't make sense of what I'm saying. So for those who can understand :

1. 3 RVS lynch in a row on Schadd was very suspicious early on in the game. But I'll agree that I've put notice and thoughts on that 15 years too late lol. It is nearly improbable that this was a scum strategy, but since it's my only lead, I'm willing to pursue it till I'm proven false.

2. MaryJoLisa, who had the OVARIES (good one btw ;;;) to actually do it, she pointed out that legitimate concern.

3. GammaEmerald (my current lynch fyi), has labeled MaryJoLisa as scum for pointing out that concern. That really got under my skin since she did nothing wrong and tried to do the right thing this early on in the game.

4. I've pointed the whole thing out at around 330's posts I believe

5. PenguinPower gets super defensive from the post 340 to 374. From there, I'm assuming that I hit a nerve somewhere. Which is probably adding legitimacy to at least one of the points I've made.


From there on, I don't give a fuck about you guys think. You all seem to get into wagons and being lost trying to make sense out of the game. You should probably try to make sense of what I've just said before you fuck something up.

[schadd_]

could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

this DP wagon, this GE wagon

what are things that people on those wagons should do

[Psyche]

@Psyche: Not sure if you're talking to me, but yes I understand what active lurking is and was trying to say that it has recently become a viable strategy again. Hence my vote on LUV. Do you disagree with that assessment?

I also asked you about MJL. What's your read?

if you know that active lurking is categorically different from regular lurking then how do you call my comments "a bit disingenuous"? it reads like you're reaching to make me seem more self-contradictory than i am

[Psyche]

could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

this DP wagon, this GE wagon

what are things that people on those wagons should do

focus your attention and analysis on people who are playing the game

[Redemption]

Give me the benefit of the doubt in regard to what? The two are completely unrelated.

The doubt that you may or may not actually try to make yourself look good by discrediting my whole theory.

Maybe "the benefit of the doubt" wasn't the right term. I should maybe say that you maybe just try to shadow my point by overreacting to everything (from 340 to 360 I believe).

But still, I have to give you credit for seeing me as town even though my posts are very agressive.

[Psyche]

beyond simply being more experienced and therefore being someone who "should know better", penguinpower's passivity w/ respect to scumhunting contradicts his personality to a degree i don't see in other players i'm criticizing
he comes off as a pretty forceful guy and has been pretty forceful itt, but when it comes to the work of finding scum he's a sheep
players like schadd and uzi have had just as much information to work with here as he has, but even if i don't like their tracks they manage to start and focus conversations around scumhunting in a way he doesn't
the follower routine just doesn't match my read of him as a person, his professed humility about what's possible 20 pages into a game be damned

[schadd_]

could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

this DP wagon, this GE wagon

what are things that people on those wagons should do

focus your attention and analysis on people who are playing the game

who that is currently voting dp (which seems to be prompting this thought) isn't doing that

i am

performer's post where he votes pikachu is trying to sort someone else as well

ditto cdb

penguin you think is scum, and is also engaging with present people

[Redemption]

Btw MaryJoLisa, why don't you see me as town?

[LuckyOtter]

@psyche because your original posts didn't really show that you were thinking about the difference between them. You mention active lurking in 443 but then here:

town always seems default to just lynching a lurky and/or dumb guy on d1; it's such a waste of early energy

you appear to be discrediting going after lurkers altogether. It's really not a major concern for me but something I'm keeping an eye on atm.

[Psyche]

i suppose that parses ok

[Psyche]

could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

this DP wagon, this GE wagon

what are things that people on those wagons should do

focus your attention and analysis on people who are playing the game

who that is currently voting dp (which seems to be prompting this thought) isn't doing that

i am

performer's post where he votes pikachu is trying to sort someone else as well

ditto cdb

penguin you think is scum, and is also engaging with present people

oh by attention/analysis, i lowkey mean votes, i lowkey mean find scum among the people who have made enough posts to be readable, i lowkey mean wagon penguindude with me
see it all comes together

[schadd_]

ok i will wagon my townread with you and ignore the person i currently think is the most likely red flip and then go fuck myself

[Psyche]

change your townread into a scumread and your scumread into a nullread

[schadd_]

how do you feel about cdb

[schadd_]

(yes the gotcha is that he has the same amt of posts as the two people you're complaining about wagons)

[Psyche]

i wanna be more fun
you guys know, im actually a pretty fun guy
schadd knows
tell them, schadd!

pedit: very probably town; if he turns out to be scum i'll be super impressed by his 130

[LuckyOtter]

Also still wanting Psyche's read on MJL, who has posted a lot in this game

[schadd_]

i wanna be more fun

i think youre very subject to the same criticisms you're making except replace "inactives" with "an active guy that youd expect to use a different strategy"

for some reason i keep wanting to describe it as "sabre rattling" even though that means something specific and different

[Psyche]

like, to write 130 as scum he'd have to really put himself into the mindset of a townie not just beholding the challenge before him; he'd have to anticipate not just the intense distress - a potent mix of frustration, desperation, and hopelessness - someone in his veterany position might feel having to deal with the current meta of gimmicks and spam, but also the kinds of constructive action he might pursue in such a situation under such emotional duress

It really does set up a great explanation for his diluted activity/apparent interest in the game going forward, but hypothetical scum CBD isn't satisfied in just resting on his lurky laurels. He engages with the game, generates and shares substantive and decently reasoned observations about more than just a few slots and their prospects as reads. If he is scum this game he probably already deserves the win. But he's not.

[Psyche]

im trying really hard can you tell

[schadd_]

he's played as town recently and can just. remember what its like to play with spammy people. like he was in team mafia for example. no hes not inimitably town, whoa there.

anyway i can go on with you about which sabre to rattle and all that but i don't see the merit

[Psyche]

don't worry i do something like this in all the games i replace into

[schadd_]

you should address the other things extended to you

[Psyche]

i have to put off reading mjl for a little while longer