Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[Irrelephant11]

why did i bus Smile in your evidence based spreadsheet?

pedit: fine, ask it.

this was my question.

Because you weren’t itt when Smile’s lynch was turning from “one of multiple options” to “the lynch for D1”

[Chara]

Okay
Seems we’re at a stalemate of sorts and I’m not willing to break that for now
No hard feelings if you’re town, I’m sure we’ll get past this uncomfy moment
And especially no hard feelings if you’re scum, you’ve done a great job getting me to back off

I’m gonna exit the thread now I think it’s time for some other voices

Pedit: wait did I miss a question or you still have one?

Hi RCE
Unfortunately Chara has my mind spinning so I’m gonna ignore your post aside from saying I think it’s a good post

for what it's worth, no one should be scumreading elephant after this whole thing. he's completely town.

and yes, no hard feelings. i really didn't mean to upset you.

i was thinking about offering to just go along with your Clarity thing, but skitter feels like the way harder sell so if i did that then i don't think she would get any attention at all.

[Chara]

Because you weren’t itt when Smile’s lynch was turning from “one of multiple options” to “the lynch for D1”

what's itt?

[Chara]

oh, in the thread.

[Irrelephant11]

You know what would be funny
If skitter/Clarity is the the team and Skitter was just trying to save the scum partner she thought she could go further with in Smile by bussing Clarity
That would be funny

Pedit: itt is “in the thread”

[Fuscezu]

three people: -comments on arbitrary scumminess of an innocent intro post-
me: -old man shrug meme-

@Clarity Are you town? And, does anything from anyone stick out to you?

No point in answering the first question.

I like the Pretty Cure hydra. Y'all are neat.

you got any impressions of anybody? I'm still reading

All I've got is a slight townlean on the PreCure hydra and that's it

Tbh I'm a bit intimidated by the amount of clearly experienced players in a bigger game than I'm used to, not to mention it's a semi-closed setup. Feels like a lot of the experienced ones are debating mafia theory rather than anything about this game too so I'm kinda just hoping for a brainwave rn.

Clarity has one read: Smile is town. What’s the reasoning?

three people: -comments on arbitrary scumminess of an innocent intro post-
me: -old man shrug meme-

@Clarity Are you town? And, does anything from anyone stick out to you?

No point in answering the first question.

I like the Pretty Cure hydra. Y'all are neat.

I feel like if a new-ish player is a wolf then they would sound a little bit more tense than Clarity here? (yes pocket me harder)
idk her meta but she gains magical girl points from March

- Cure March

Smile’s only analysis of Clarity is in the above post

I feel like if a new-ish player is a wolf then they would sound a little bit more tense than Clarity here? (yes pocket me harder)
idk her meta but she gains magical girl points from March

Yes! I've always wanted magical girl points.

Meh

To elaborate more on Smile townlean which is pretty much the sole read I’m slightly sure about: I feel like their scattered thoughts and reads are more town-indicative because as scum they’d be more likely to collaborate on their posts so that they’re not likely to contradict each other. That they’re just throwing out their individual thoughts without much consideration vibes town to me

This post felt a little coached to me att compared to other Clarity posts but regardless of if that’s true this is the only “real” read Clarity provided D1

I was about to try to make a PoE but I have to go into a meeting

Hot take: fuscezu is scum
idk if that take is hot it's just something I'm feeling in this moment

Kinda seeing this too actually

Shown later to be a fake read, for example

Also four people have commented on my intro post and I'm going to assume scum is at least one of you

There's no other reason I see for the consistent reference to a post that should be completely NAI.

One of these “four people” was Smile

ceejayvinoya

[line]Chara
ClearlyClarity
Fuscezu[/line]

insomnia

[line]Irrelephant11[/line]
Miss Kobayashi Maru
Persivul
RCEnigma
Shiidaji

skitter30

[line]Smile[/line]

tris

never touching strikethrough names d1
should probably lynch within bolded
underlined is shit thrown at the wall scum for post game ego

- March

Never gave enough reason to cross off Clarity here

- Smile
- Chara
- Irrelephant

---

- Fuscezu
- skitter
- CJ

Rest are null. Best I can give you for now

Never gave enough reason to put Smile up high

I am taking control of our vote~~~

VOTE: Fuscezu

I've poked March about the insomnia vote. I don't hate it but I don't think we have time left in the day to get a wagon there tbh. We also talked about tris, and March saw one post that she thought was maybe townie, I disagree about that post being townie but I don't think my scumread there is strong enough to make it worth fighting about. One thing I thought was interesting though was that tris/fuscezu came up, since March pointed out that a lot of her reads are kinda vague except for Fusc. Tris started out with a scumread on Fusc and then maintained a townread. March is kinda ok with that development but I again disagree.

If Fusc flipped scum, I think it would be worth revisiting tris. But for now my bigger problem is with Fusc. I was fine with our vote on Fusc for most of the day and honestly didn't fully understand why March moved us off. Going back to reread that slot now I kinda don't understand how tris sees town there and I feel like fusco has played in a way that reminds me very much of someone like scum!skygazer where he tries to be cool and emphasize his own activity even though he's not doing much. 'im reading' 'im still reading' etc. Also notice a noncommittal read here on tris, which reinforces my thought that tris/fusc could be s/s, with fusc avoiding a read and tris trying for early distancing and then a townread.

Spoiler:

(March didn't want me to mention this but there's also the fact that I think Brown Eyes, when town, has the strongest day 1 reads of people I know, even when she's only paying about 20% attention to the game. Every other time I've played with her I've scumread her incorrectly for lack of presence and while her not doing much doesn't make her conftown, I feel like her reads in this sort of game state are more likely to be stronger than my own, or for that matter, March's. <3 u March)

I've been thinking about skitter's argument on CC, and to be honest CC is a slot that has been very much under the radar for me. Despite having 50+ posts I feel like the slot has had very little presence. On going back through the iso 674 jumps out at me -- while I appreciate the townread, the more important thing to me is skitter scum along with fusc and cj. CJ is null to me but could be scum, fusc I think is scum, and skitter is someone I can see CC being paranoid about as town. So this would not be my first preference for today. That being said, I feel like CC did not push Fuscezu very hard after voting that slot, so there's some risk of that being scum distancing. I'd vote there if I have to to avoid my own mislynch but I'd much prefer Fusc, and if not Fusc then tris.

Bottom line is I think fusc is the best day 1 for us.

-Beauty

Smile, desperate for a lynch beside themselves, towncases Clarity, who arguably would have been a much easier lynch to push than Fuscezu

Then Clarity votes Smile despite the Smile townread being the strongest and longest-held read they had all D1

This is a really good case for clarity tbh

-baezu

[Chara]

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Smile (3):

insomnia, Irrelephant11, tris

RCEnigma (2):

skitter30, Fuscezu

Fuscezu (2):

Brown Eyes, ClearlyClarity

Irrelephant11 (2):

Flavor Leaf, RCEnigma

Flavor Leaf (1):

Chara

ceejayvinoya (1):

Smile

tris (1):

Persivul

Not Voting (1):

ceejayvinoya

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

and i voted Smile when she was at L-3 to make it L-4. just for the record. i did leave the thread soon after due to rl, but that's a pretty stupid thing for me to do if i was scum with them.

[RCEnigma]

There are plenty of strong slots that I don't feel scum!Skitter could wiggle away from in this gamestate so if irrel is the next nights nk I don't think it's the end of the world.

VOTE: CC

[Chara]

er. i voted Smile to

make

it L-3. is what i was trying to say.

[Chara]

You know what would be funny
If skitter/Clarity is the the team and Skitter was just trying to save the scum partner she thought she could go further with in Smile by bussing Clarity
That would be funny

Pedit: itt is “in the thread”

it would be really funny. i'd feel kind of bad for skitter in that case.

[Chara]

i forgot to say, i received a delicious fruit last night. thanks!

[Fuscezu]

Okay
Seems we’re at a stalemate of sorts and I’m not willing to break that for now
No hard feelings if you’re town, I’m sure we’ll get past this uncomfy moment
And especially no hard feelings if you’re scum, you’ve done a great job getting me to back off

I’m gonna exit the thread now I think it’s time for some other voices

Pedit: wait did I miss a question or you still have one?

Hi RCE
Unfortunately Chara has my mind spinning so I’m gonna ignore your post aside from saying I think it’s a good post

for what it's worth, no one should be scumreading elephant after this whole thing. he's completely town.

and yes, no hard feelings. i really didn't mean to upset you.

i was thinking about offering to just go along with your Clarity thing, but skitter feels like the way harder sell so if i did that then i don't think she would get any attention at all.

I 1000% agree that the elephant is town

[RCEnigma]

I mean, in a pool of Chara/Skitter/CC, Clarity is a strong partner of both and even in the event BOTH Chara and Skitter are town (not sure I think it's likely) CC still has the strongest association with the flipped scum slot.

[Irrelephant11]

I used to enjoy rolling scum the most
Then I worked on my town game a lot
Rolling scum has gotten less attractive lately

Can we get both skitter and Clarity to L-1?? Let’s find out!
With that I’m outie

[Succinct]

Got a couple pages to read, I was redirected to myself last night. Turns out I'm fabulous .

Pardon me, but who did you target?

Can I get a list of claims/important events?

I can tell Chara's definitely town and believe Irrelephant's town, but as they've been the only ones posting, I lack contextual reads on anyone else.

[ClearlyClarity]

VOTE: skitter

[funkybike1]

VOTE COUNT

6 of 11 votes are required to lynch.

skitter30 (4):

Irrelephant11, Chara, Fuscezu, ClearlyClarity

ClearlyClarity (1):

RCEnigma

Not Voting (6):

ceejayvinoya, Persivul, tris, insomnia, skitter30, Succinct

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-04 15:30:00)

[Succinct]

VOTE: skitter

L-1

Can't read her, but sheeping Chara/Irrelephant until given better idea.

[Chara]

you put someone at L-1 just for that?

[Irrelephant11]

UNVOTE:

[Chara]

i would like to see everyone check in before we go ending the day. maybe elephant's dream can be seen through.

[Succinct]

you put someone at L-1 just for that?

As long as not hammering, I'd vote someone for it, yes. L-1's irrelevant. Were I two minutes faster to cast it (minutes I spent skimming skitter's iso), my vote would've been L-2.

[Succinct]

Got a couple pages to read, I was redirected to myself last night. Turns out I'm fabulous .

Pardon me, but who did you target?

Can I get a list of claims/important events?

Still could use this.

[ClearlyClarity]

VOTE: skitter

L-1

Can't read her, but sheeping Chara/Irrelephant until given better idea.

Why did you vote skitter over me?

[Chara]

well, not really. elephant only unvoted because skitter rocketed to L-1, i imagine.
even if she's scum, her getting lynched with little to no discussion is also no ideal.

pedit: no one has claimed. there's just RC's redirect thing and me receiving fruit.
FL claimed 3p upon replacing in and that was fun.