Newbie 1934: Tundra (Game Over)

[Cinnamon]

Sorry in case it's not clear that last message in 174 is in response to irrelephant, the rest is in response to teacher.

[Voted]

thenavneet is in L-2, right? Lets put him on L-1 so we get from RVS
VOTE: thenavneet

E: forgot to add the signature so you don't lynch me for fakehammer

I don’t get the e? Plus 61 is actually a double vote from 24 - what’s the point?

I din't wanted to get lynched for a joke.

[Voted]

I said that because I think acting apathetic can happen as either alignment but generally

trying to look town is something a good town wouldn't do

Why?

[Voted]

UNVOTE:
Lets do same reads. Actually, list of who I would like to see lynched D1. I will dismiss SEs, because I don't like lynching experienced players D1.
0/10=scum 10/10=town

thenavneet:

no scum hunting, no reads. 1/10

Menalque:

whole game was just pushing Eggs for the L-2/ L-1 thing. Got game from RVS by making wagoon. 3/10

Cinnamon:

having hard time reading this because of walls of text (hence the scatter). Tries to make SEs read each other, contributes his own reads, asks few quesstions 4-6/10

Uncle Bob:

not many reads, asks questions 4/10

Eggs:

I don't think that L-2/ L-1 thing was scum gambit. Too risky and unsure result. Posts same reads. No question except. 6/10

Spoiler:

One of these are probably scum, but I'm not sure which.

If you're right, I am sure which.

Oh the other hand, you

would

do that as scum. So I'm not sure you are.

Why is menalque scummy there please? Tone? Content? Motivation? Something else?

VOTE: thenavneet

[Voted]

That's L-1! No more votes.

[Irrelephant11]

Why is Eggs higher townier than menalque?
Why don’t you want to vote SEs - what if two of us SEs are the entire scumteam?

[Irrelephant11]

I don’t think navneet is scum based on how many votes he’s gotten tbh

[Voted]

Eggs posts reads. Menalque only pushed Eggs for only one thing. D1 you are only guessing who is scum so there is huge chance of mislynch (actually, I have never played a game where town would lynch scum D1). Mislynching good and active player hurts town a lot. Also, active scum can help town more than lurking town.

[Irrelephant11]

Active scum certainly doesn’t help town more than lurking town. What?
And yeah it can be hard to lynch scum D1 but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. The odds are low but nowhere near 0%

[Irrelephant11]

Regardless of your stance on lynching SEs, what are your reads on us?

[Uncle Bob]

Menalque seems quite earnest to me, and I am inclined to think that he is town.

I want Flavour Leaf to explain how his read on me changed.

Eggs is questionable.

Simple. I started to see Cinnamon as town.

So why do you think there is one scum between me and cinnamon?

I don't disagree with the caution about groundwork

Then it seems like you agree with the most important thing.
quote="In post 154, Cinnamon"]His thought process through his posts makes a lot of sense to me.[/quote]
Which ones? Maybe you can tell me why he thinks one of us is scum?
quote="In post 166, Eggs"]By 136 he's townreading someone purely on the basis of voting FL[/quote]
Not town reading so much as happy with. quote="In post 166, Eggs"]where did 135 come from?[/quote]
quote="In post 80, Flavor Leaf"]I think that’s a townie play by Uncle.1[/quote]
quote="In post 166, Eggs"]Not explicitly giving any opinion. Instead of saying he's scumreading FL for it he turns it into a point against me[/quote]
I did not intend it as a point against you. It's a point against FL, and I think you should be scum reading him for it. quote="In post 166, Eggs"]he hinting at me + FL scumteam?[/quote]
I am not hinting at that.
quote="In post 182, Voted"]Also, active scum can help town more than lurking town.[/quote]
Why do you think this?

[Uncle Bob]

Fixed

Menalque seems quite earnest to me, and I am inclined to think that he is town.

I want Flavour Leaf to explain how his read on me changed.

Eggs is questionable.

Simple. I started to see Cinnamon as town.

So why do you think there is one scum between me and cinnamon?

I don't disagree with the caution about groundwork

Then it seems like you agree with the most important thing.

His thought process through his posts makes a lot of sense to me.

Which ones? Maybe you can tell me why he thinks one of us is scum?

By 136 he's townreading someone purely on the basis of voting FL

Not town reading so much as happy with.

where did 135 come from?

I think that’s a townie play by Uncle.1

Not explicitly giving any opinion. Instead of saying he's scumreading FL for it he turns it into a point against me

I did not intend it as a point against you. It's a point against FL, and I think you should be scum reading him for it.

he hinting at me + FL scumteam?

I am not hinting at that.

Also, active scum can help town more than lurking town.

Why do you think this?

[Flavor Leaf]

Because nobody else jumped on me. I could be wrong and you guys were both town on me, but that’s not that common.

I’m not like totally against the idea of that having happened, but I don’t have enough to feel like that wasn’t the case yet, if that makes sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

I guess nave could be scum, but they’d just be hurting themselves by not doing much. I think it’s more likely they’re town and scum are pushing them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Eggs and Cinnamon are my stronger town reads right now.

[Uncle Bob]

Because nobody else jumped on me.

So you think wagons of two town are rare?

[Uncle Bob]

Can you show me some game where you've used this line of reasoning before?

[Uncle Bob]

And how does cinnamon voting you have any bearing on your read on me?

[Flavor Leaf]

Because nobody else jumped on me.

So you think wagons of two town are rare?

2 townies on me.

Yeah, I could, but I don’t feel like searching on my phone right now while on public transit.

Nothing comes off the top of my head, but I’m that confident i can search and find if I looked into it

[Cinnamon]

@Voted what I meant by that is that trying to look town without doing things that are actually helpful for town is indicative of scum.

[Cinnamon]

Bob, I think what Flavor is trying to say is that he believes as town he acts towny enough that a two person wagon formed against him early like we did is generally not going to be two other town.

[Menalque]

Afraid I still haven’t had a chance to write anything longer on laptop. I’ll get to it on Sunday. There are two alternatives that I’d be equally happy to lynch for Day 1 and I’ll explain who and why in more depth next post.

[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.4

Voted (2) - Irrelephant11, Eggs
Uncle Bob (1) - teacher
Flavor Leaf (1) - Uncle Bob
Eggs (1) - Menalque
thenavneet (1) - Voted

Not Voting (3) - Cinnamon, Flavor Leaf, thenavneet

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-01 14:03:49).

[Voted]

teacher - not posting many reads. Tries to make players post reads, argument their reads. For same reason, I like tone. 8/10
Irrelephant11 - reads, pushes scummy people so they post more. 7/10
Flavor Leaf - plenty of reads and thoughs, no questions, no deeper reads. 3-4/10

[Voted]

@mod we want also fauna on the pictures!