Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[Chara]

it depends on the moderator. they have the same priority according to NAR. i'm not sure how i would handle it personally, but it would need to be decided beforehand who has priority or if they roleblock each other and so both don't act.

[skitter30]

is anyone SRing skitter?

lol a whole lot of people are scumreading me

assorted thoughts: irrel town, chara town, insomnia town, fucezu prob town.
i kinda think that cc is town too

not town: cj

idk/don't have reads: succinct, percy, anyone else i didn't name

oh i also had a gut-townping on rce at some point today

i'm missing someone and i'm not sure who they are offhand

rce isn't a super strong read but i'm tending towards more-likely-than-not town

[skitter30]

38. There are two Jailkeepers in this setup. The first time they both target each other, they are both protected. The second and subsequent times, they are both roleblocked and not protected.

i'm prob reading into this too much but gut says that this means that there's only two jks and this deliniates how they interact with each other

[skitter30]

ie and no other rb'ing roles

[skitter30]

oh tris is who i'm missing; she's ~nullscum

[Chara]

i think other roleblockers are possible. it may just resolve as roleblocking each other as i said.

[Chara]

who do you think the scum on your wagon were, skitter?

[Chara]

also i'd like to know why you aren't paranoid of me anymore. i sort of expected it considering my attempts to lynch you after townreading you earlier.

[skitter30]

skitter's fruit vendor: why not just send it to someone who you think is

town

? was it just that you thought i'd probably claim it regardless of my alignment? i know it's a fruit vendor, but still.

read on me: would you mind talking about that again when you're back? the process of "not townreading Chara" to realizing i was on Smile, to now townreading me. i found it helpful last game.

Fuscezu and Clearly were both at two votes. if we assume both are town, it's weird that Smile picked Fuscezu over Clearly because Clearly was more mislynchable and being pushed by elephant and skitter. however, Clearly was townreading Smile, and Smile was townrearing Clearly. scum alienating a supporter like that isn't good when trying to dodge the lynch, especially since it could result in Clearly's vote on Fuscezu moving to Smile. plus, it would pretty much spew Clearly as town if Smile reversed the read they had there in that position. i'm pretty sure Smile is experienced enough to know that. (or at least Beauty was)

so that's why i don't find Smile's choice in push to be particularly damning for Clearly.

pedit: i'm glad you didn't, because faking a guilty sucks.

a) it's a fruit vendor; it basically exists to go 'hey she did something last night!' and hopefully the person on the other end claims it. like i wouldn't send it to someoen i'm scumreading because, like, they might have some nefarious reason for not claiming it, or to someone i'm not sure would actually claim it, but other than that, i'd basically send it to someoe who:
a) i thought was more likely than not town
b) would claim it
c) wouldn't die
and you fit all three criteria

b) we've talked about this before but you're a read that for soem reason takes a while to click. up until then i'm paranoid, afterwards i'm not. that's just kinda how it works. it's kinda hard to articulate where the paranoia starts or stops or why but that's just kinda how i read you

i was paranoid and no, i didn't realize you were on smile. once you pointed out that you were, i felt like that didn't really feel like a bussing vote from you (or, more precisely i guess, the way you were trying to get towncred for the vote felt a little ~overt~ and i'm not sure you would have pushed for the cred that hard or that confidently as scum) and then the paranoia switched off and it's stayed off

c) i can see ur logic wrt clearly. idk, i do think that the defense on smile's side looked kinda partner-y. i also htink that the fucezu vote spewed them town

[skitter30]

who do you think the scum on your wagon were, skitter?

succinct's my best guess rn; what's ur read on them btw?

also i'd like to know why you aren't paranoid of me anymore. i sort of expected it considering my attempts to lynch you after townreading you earlier.

see above; also i don't think that scum!you tries to mislynch me really; it's a lot easier for you to wk me and either keep me around or nk me at some point i think

[skitter30]

b) i bus and distance better than this, thank you; if i were partners with him i wouldn't have a half-assed distancing like this, knowing that i'd like bad if he flipped, esp. since he was just a goon. i know that in most scumteams i need to set myself to go for endgame if i want to win - and when i knwo what people are going to flip it's pretty easy to make myself look good afterwards.

c) i'm not convinced that tris is town

b) actually, i thought your distancing was pretty good. elephant pointed it out. i know you wouldn't want to straight bus Smile until you thought you needed to. but you did have a lot of interactions that looked good.
i also don't believe it would be possible to know Smile was going to flip until that point.

c) this sounds like a fun thing to talk about when you're back.

b) if i were distancing with smile it wouldnt' look like this, this isn't good for my standards lol (i'm proud of my banner! and how i won it too!)
c) ok. what do you want to talk about tris?

[Chara]

VOTE: cj

pedit: i have no read on Succinct, it's a null poe slot for me. if you're town it's a better pick for scum, however.

and you're right about that, i don't think i could win if i were scum trying to mislynch you.

pedit again: give me a moment.

[Fuscezu]

CC is town. what slimey push

insomnia's town despite the push imo; i'm coming around to town!cc too

CC is town. what slimey push

Defence noted

Yea this was actually pretty green tinted, at least in tandem with the one after it.


~F

[Chara]

b) if i were distancing with smile it wouldnt' look like this, this isn't good for my standards lol (i'm proud of my banner! and how i won it too!)

can you give me an idea of how it would look?

[Fuscezu]

assorted thoughts: irrel town, chara town, insomnia town, fucezu prob town.
i kinda think that cc is town too

not town: cj

I havent sorted chara -tbh i dont want to give them a pass.

cj is def a good wagon.


The rest of this looks legit.

[Fuscezu]

VOTE: ceejay

[skitter30]

i'm p. sure that if clearly is scum here she has to have someone feeding her a lot of her posts i think. there's a lot of nuance htere that i'd be surprised to come from scum

pedit open 732 or hebichan in gerrymandering or tris in 911 emergency

[Fuscezu]

P: OK Chara Ill warm up to you if that CJ vote is not just a trick of the maftiger. Votes arent highlighted here in TigerTown. And Q+ Doesnt exist . . .

[skitter30]

heck even a50 in jingle's game @chara

i know what to do to look good after my buddies flip

[skitter30]

@fucezu i was thinking of voting cj after i catch up actually

[Fuscezu]

rce isn't a super strong read but i'm tending towards more-likely-than-not town

enh.

just my life is easier if they flip red.

[Chara]

i feel like i was right on my initial assessment of town Clearly and got paranoid from her claiming tone.
i'll look those up when i have the time. i was more wanting a description of how you perceive your distancing prowess, however

[skitter30]

heck even a50 in jingle's game @chara

i know what to do to look good after my buddies flip

or how to make *them* look good after i flip

like my scumgame sucks in a bunch fo ways; distancing is not one of them

my interactions with clearly in this game *do* kinda look like what they'd look like if i was scum with her, sure, i'll give you that

[Chara]

P: OK Chara Ill warm up to you if that CJ vote is not just a trick of the maftiger. Votes arent highlighted here in TigerTown. And Q+ Doesnt exist . . .

why do you do this to yourself?
and it was a real vote.

[Chara]

is there anyone else voting cj right now besides fuscezu and i? i feel like there was.