In post 2548, mbaki wrote:Dance / Vengeful accomplish the sameish things, so I'm putting them together. I think this is the best choice for today, probably.
Now, here's why this whole conversation is stupid and Vengeful eclipses Dance
. If we pick Dance, the benefit is we get to pick two players to kill. The most likely result is we lynch 2 LHF, one of the scum probably ends up with TMCK who ya'll have publicly declared immune to lynch, and generally scum get to control the narrative. It does let us kill two players without a night kill, which basically makes it close to straight up better than Veto at this stage in the game, so there's that. However, let's look at Vengeful.
Vengeful, if we lynch town, we/they get to pick a second shot. Essentially, still two dead people with control of town and no night kill, just like 8ball but actually safer. So it accomplishes the same as Dance, with the benefit that we control the two people we kill, scum doesn't. Dance is narrative building from scum, they hold the cards, whereas with Vengeful we do. Keep in mind 3 scum 12 lynchable town (there's an IC) makes it mathematically not likely to hit scum, so the most probable outcome is 1-2 dead town. If we lynch scum, they kill TMCK. I don't get why you're all acting like that's a bad thing. If we lynch scum, that means we have now killed
2 scum and only 1 town
. Its literally fucking 12:2, *and* we still have a bunch of cool shit
. Quiz is free at that point as it makes another IC; scum literally do not have the numbers to put up a scum to get the 3 night kills. I illustrated this above. So, we create another IC (this time with bulletproof!) along with a lynch, and then there's still coalition / veto to clean up coalition / 1of4 to find the last scum / reveal to create
another
IC / etc. If we lynch scum today we close to auto win in this setup. Ank said this is the same as a lynch if we hit scum; yes, it is, and lynching scum auto wins with these numbers in this setup with even a *little* bit of skill. Lynching scum with
Dance accomplishes the same thing, which is why I still think its the second best option, but vengeful's utility eclipses it
.
Does that make sense? If eli7 wasn't good enough I can eli5 it.
