Newbie 1934: Tundra (Game Over)

[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.7

Voted (4) - Irrelephant11, Menalque, Cinnamon, teacher
teacher (2) - Eggs, Flavor Leaf
Flavor Leaf (1) - Uncle Bob
thenavneet (1) - Voted

Not Voting (1) - thenavneet

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in 4 days, 5 hours, 33 minutes (FROZEN).

[Eggs]

Whole board reads:

Nav - yes. Not sure about the eggs focus, that's kinda necessary when you vote, unvote, remind mod about unvote. But rest of points re. wagon replacement etc. agree completely.
Cinnamon - good early spot, i'm catching up with this
Voted/Bob - I'm flipped on your position. I read more evasion and discontent at being challenged in bob than voted, and more weirdness and odd logic in voted than bob.

I think it's tempting to lay into Voted for inconsistencies and non-sequiturs but poor logic is not the same as being scum. Or the same as not being scum.

I have absolutely no idea whether he is scum and I'm not sure I could ever figure it out. Is the best strategy to kill/clear him via PoE or just policy lynch?

[Eggs]

had a weird self-consciousness about being the third on the wagon and sheeping. The readslist in 102 felt oddly townsided

Unstated L-1

Absolutely townsided, this is why I suggested an SE hiding in null and/or coaching.

[Voted]

Got game from RVS by making wagoon.

This is included in your second highest scum ranking. Why is exiting RVS/making wagons a bad thing?

That got him from 1-2/10 rating.

[teacher]

I have absolutely no idea whether he is scum and I'm not sure I could ever figure it out. Is the best strategy to kill/clear him via PoE or just policy lynch?

If you’re not sure you can ever read them, then lynch it. That’s not the mistake you want to let linger til lylo.

[teacher]

had a weird self-consciousness about being the third on the wagon and sheeping. The readslist in 102 felt oddly townsided

Unstated L-1

Absolutely townsided, this is why I suggested an SE hiding in null and/or coaching.

No, third on the wagon “offer I can’t refuse” during RVS. I saw that as slightly scummy, vs the unannounced L-1 which I view as mildly towny.

[Eggs]

That was fourth not third, that's the point I'm trying to make.

[Eggs]

VOTE: thenavneet
Still being scum in every game?

VOTE: thenavneet

That said, I appreciate that it was very early on and is probably NAI. Plus, I’m assuming that we’re unlikely to get a lot more out of you from pressuring, so why not: VOTE: thenavneet

Third on the wagon? Who could refuse such a generous offer?
VOTE: Thenavneet

thenavneet is in L-2, right? Lets put him on L-1 so we get from RVS
VOTE: thenavneet

Votecount 1.2

thenavneet (4) - Voted, Irrelephant11, Menalque, Eggs

(L-1)

Irrelephant11 (2) - teacher, Uncle Bob
Menalque (1) - Cinnamon

Not Voting (2) - Flavor Leaf, thenavneet

[teacher]

That was fourth not third, that's the point I'm trying to make.

And I’m trying to make a different point.

[Irrelephant11]

I just read through some marathons and kinda suspect cinnamon again, just throwing that out there

[Eggs]

Ah, gotcha.

You got 5 mins to talk about Bob? Is there anything in particular steering you towards mislynch or is it a tone thing/feeling? Any particular point stand out?

[Eggs]

Anyone else want to talk for a while? I need a distraction from work.

[Voted]

About what?

[Eggs]

How about cinnamon? Going into a tunnel, will be more specific afterwards.

[Eggs]

Do you think it's a problem in 167 that he's going after SEs? Mistake or scum motivation? What do you think of the secondg half of that post?

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: teacher

[Cinnamon]

Do you think it's a problem in 167 that he's going after SEs? Mistake or scum motivation? What do you think of the secondg half of that post?

The way you word this post, it sounds like you are suggesting that trying to discuss SEs can only be a mistake if I'm town. Could you elaborate on that? Why is shifting the discussion towards SEs a mistake?

[Voted]

1) My posts have been mainly focused on the SEs because I think it would be useful to discuss the SEs - there hasn't been too much discussion over their play so far and they are posting a lot. In addition, some of the other players aren't really giving off reads right now.

2) For instance, I am not sure why there are quite a few town reads on thenavneet right now. From what they've said, I don't see anything that I would consider really townie. If I was to townread them it would really be me sheeping other players. I'd love to hear more from him.

I do like what Menalque is saying, his ideas make sense to me. I have a town read on him so far.

1) Why scummy? I don't like lynching experienced players, but that doesn't mean that I scumread anyone who pushes them.
2) I agree

[Eggs]

1) Agreed, I quite liked the spirit of enquiry there - for reference, yes, this was intentionally a leading question, was trying to gauge if you were going to go along with stuff.
2) regardless of whether you agree, do you think this comes from scum or town?

Any of cinnamon's posts stick out to you?

[teacher]

VOTE: teacher

?????

[Irrelephant11]

Yeah weird that Eggs and Voted said nothing right??

[Irrelephant11]

Lol
I was giving Voted a juicy wagon and seeing if he’d take it
He didn’t even touch it
I’m not sure I want a Voted lynch, especially given basically everyone voting him has acknowledged he’s mislynchbait

[Irrelephant11]

Not sure I see scum!Voted unless scum!teacher, anyway

[teacher]

That was a 180. What’s up?

I could see eggs as a partner very much. I’ve seen a lot of semi-busses and it explains to me why all of a sudden he stopped sheeping as it got serious.

[teacher]

Yeah weird that Eggs and Voted said nothing right??

No - that’s been my silent partner pick, as begin to hunt in my readslist. I see it a lot in eggs 102 and sudden switch away from sheeping and positioning around the wagon.