Newbie 1934: Tundra (Game Over)

[Menalque]

I don’t like the teacher lynch for today. I think if it isn’t Raya then it’s likely voted who’s bussing and who is relying on being seen as mislynch bait to get away.

[Menalque]

Seriously, look at Voted’s ISO. There’s pretty much nothing there of substance especially the last several posts.

[Menalque]

I’d actually be fine getting back on a Voted wagon if there’s appetite, particularly from anyone on the teacher wagon.

[Flavor Leaf]

Anyone willing to go Irrelephant?

[Flavor Leaf]

Teacher > Irrelephant > Cinnamon is my preference order right now, and I likely won’t go anyone outside of those 3.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t think there’s necessarily 2 scum within that, but i don’t strictly think there isn’t.

However, I do think there is near zero chance that there isn’t at least 1 scum within.

[Menalque]

I’m not going irrelephant today.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not going irrelephant today.

I’m not going Raya today

[Menalque]

FL if you think there’s scum on the Raya wagon why do you think it’s not Voted?

[Flavor Leaf]

FL if you think there’s scum on the Raya wagon why do you think it’s not Voted?

He’s a mislynch. Scum have been setting a gamestate up where he becomes a compromise wagon.

[Menalque]

mod, could we get an up-to-date VC please

[Menalque]

Here’s the thing FL: I can imagine a world where you’re right about this. My issue is that I think you’re overthinking it and it’s really not that complicated. I think first scum is someone who looks actively scummy (raya/voted) and that the other will be discernible from VC analysis.

[Ausuka]

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Votecount 1.10

Raya36 (4) - Voted, Cinnamon, Menalque, Irrelephant11

(L-1)

teacher (2) - Flavor Leaf, Baezu
Voted (1) - teacher
Baezu (1) - Eggs
Cinnamon (1) - Raya36

Not Voting (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-03 06:33:40).

[Menalque]

I’m not willing to lynch a townread, or either of two null-to-town reads, over two active scumreads and the possibility that scum have manipulated the gamestate to end up on a compromise wagon D1.

[Flavor Leaf]

Here’s the thing FL: I can imagine a world where you’re right about this. My issue is that I think you’re overthinking it and it’s really not that complicated. I think first scum is someone who looks actively scummy (raya/voted) and that the other will be discernible from VC analysis.

I can’t imagine a game where that’s the actual scum team.

That’s what scum want town to think the scum team is.

[Flavor Leaf]

There’s a reason I’m being caught back so hard rather than steeped. I have halted momentum which means scum don’t want my opinions to be picked up.

[Flavor Leaf]

*faught back, rather than *sheepee

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m also going to be night killed this night phase.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m actively pushing the SE’s, and scum just choose to take a likely weak town slot rather than one of the SE’s?

Don’t think so.

[Menalque]

I’m listening just not persuaded. I will try to reread ISO’s later for your three preferences but for now I’m leaving my vote on Raya.

Also I was trying to say I think one of Raya/voted is scum, not that that’s the scumteam necessarily.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Ausuka - Menalque is on the VC twice.

[Flavor Leaf]

There is the chance that Raya is scum and I’m correct on the path I’m pushing as well, but Raya will get lynched no matter the day.

I don’t make it past this night phase so I’m not going to join any compromise wagons or ‘slightly possible chances’

[Menalque]

Talk to me more about irrelephant and cinnamon.

[Menalque]

Why are they in that order for you? I think I know but I’d like you to spell it out for me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Look at how Irrelephant’s been speaking. He’s controlling the game state. Discrediting me, but not pushing me. He’s actively making sure I don’t get moment7m.

In contrast towards you, you are actually trying to figure out my thoughts, and attempting to work with me.

If you look into the future with a hypothetical green Raya flip, Irrelephant also stands out hard. He’s also toyed with the idea of Voted, which sets up Voted to be lynched after Raya flips green.

If Irrelephant is town, Cinnamon probably takes the spot, because they’ve more or less been doing the same thing, but they’ve been less powertown projecting.