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Post Post #6075 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:35 pm

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1 of 4 tomorrow
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Post Post #6076 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:35 pm

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This is the one power in the game my brain dries out on when I try to get it.
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Post Post #6077 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:36 pm

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In post 6075, chennisden wrote:1 of 4 tomorrow
Hell no. Are you fucking scum?
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Post Post #6078 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:37 pm

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In post 6074, Titus wrote:
In post 6071, Creature wrote:Something that involves actually flipping someone.
I agree. We mathematically have got all info we can (
supposing the game isn't over
) without lynching.
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Post Post #6079 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:39 pm

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Choose by majority vote a group of two players. During that Night, the Mafia, in addition to submitting the kill, must produce an ordered list of those players such that any Mafia aligned players appear above any town aligned players in that list.
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Post Post #6080 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:43 pm

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In post 6079, NanceFloor wrote:
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Choose by majority vote a group of two players. During that Night, the Mafia, in addition to submitting the kill, must produce an ordered list of those players such that any Mafia aligned players appear above any town aligned players in that list.
I still don't get how this works practically.
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Post Post #6081 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:45 pm

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In post 6073, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6070, Creature wrote:Can we do something that will actually help us solve the game tomorrow?
In post 6071, Creature wrote:Something that involves actually flipping someone.
I think the only power that can reveal the entire scumteam is rank, I think?

But there is no limit to how many times we can vote lynch.

So probably not, we will have to vote another power tomorrow then only the next day, can we do anything like that.
We can use vengeful

We can use arena (now that RC brought it up)

Just don't select things like protect that won't give us any info at all on anyone's alignment.
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Post Post #6082 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:47 pm

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In post 6080, Titus wrote:
In post 6079, NanceFloor wrote:
Rank
Choose by majority vote a group of two players. During that Night, the Mafia, in addition to submitting the kill, must produce an ordered list of those players such that any Mafia aligned players appear above any town aligned players in that list.
I still don't get how this works practically.
Town selects Player A and Player B.

If Player A and Player B are both town, mafia can rank them however they want.
If Player A is town and Player B is scum, mafia must rank Player B above Player A.
If Player A is scum and Player B is town, mafia must rank Player A above Player B.
If Player A and Player B are both scum, mafia can rank them however they want.
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Post Post #6083 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:49 pm

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In post 6080, Titus wrote:
In post 6079, NanceFloor wrote:
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. During that Night, the Mafia, in addition to submitting the kill, must produce an ordered list of those players such that any Mafia aligned players appear above any town aligned players in that list.
I still don't get how this works practically.
I don’t understand the first part of this. We first vote the two players with the highest scum equity, I guess. Then scum has to make a list reveal revealing the scumteam in exchange for an NK.

@mod, am I understanding this correctly?
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Post Post #6084 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 6082, Creature wrote:
In post 6080, Titus wrote:
In post 6079, NanceFloor wrote:
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Choose by majority vote a group of two players. During that Night, the Mafia, in addition to submitting the kill, must produce an ordered list of those players such that any Mafia aligned players appear above any town aligned players in that list.
I still don't get how this works practically.
Town selects Player A and Player B.

If Player A and Player B are both town, mafia can rank them however they want.
If Player A is town and Player B is scum, mafia must rank Player B above Player A.
If Player A is scum and Player B is town, mafia must rank Player A above Player B.
If Player A and Player B are both scum, mafia can rank them however they want.
Oh okay, I clearly misunderstood it then. :lol:

So not worth risking an NK for that atp.
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Post Post #6085 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:58 pm

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In post 6081, Creature wrote:
In post 6073, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6070, Creature wrote:Can we do something that will actually help us solve the game tomorrow?
In post 6071, Creature wrote:Something that involves actually flipping someone.
I think the only power that can reveal the entire scumteam is rank, I think?

But there is no limit to how many times we can vote lynch.

So probably not, we will have to vote another power tomorrow then only the next day, can we do anything like that.
We can use vengeful

We can use arena (now that RC brought it up)

Just don't select things like protect that won't give us any info at all on anyone's alignment.
Venge gives scum a free NK so that’s bad because if we correctly lynch scum, either RC and me will die. Moon will 100% kill either of us, so no.

Why do we ever need to use venge at all when we can select lynch indefinitely?
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Post Post #6086 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 6085, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6081, Creature wrote:
In post 6073, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6070, Creature wrote:Can we do something that will actually help us solve the game tomorrow?
In post 6071, Creature wrote:Something that involves actually flipping someone.
I think the only power that can reveal the entire scumteam is rank, I think?

But there is no limit to how many times we can vote lynch.

So probably not, we will have to vote another power tomorrow then only the next day, can we do anything like that.
We can use vengeful

We can use arena (now that RC brought it up)

Just don't select things like protect that won't give us any info at all on anyone's alignment.
Venge gives scum a free NK so that’s bad because if we correctly lynch scum, either RC and me will die. Moon will 100% kill either of us, so no.

Why do we ever need to use venge at all when we can select lynch indefinitely?
Venge is pretty much only good in a setup where we know that scum are in a particular pool.

So if we lynch in A or B, lynch in the other scum, 1 of 4, count bodies, venge.

That's the only place I see venge being useful.

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Post Post #6087 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:04 pm

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SAVE VENGE FOR LYLO
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Post Post #6088 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:04 pm

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oh nvm we cant
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Post Post #6089 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:04 pm

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but SAVE VENGE FOR MYLO
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Post Post #6090 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:05 pm

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uh Rank is literally a free cop
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Post Post #6091 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:06 pm

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succint is literally only conf town now
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Post Post #6092 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:07 pm

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actually rank is worthless
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Post Post #6093 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:09 pm

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titus rn u dont get to call other people scum
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Post Post #6094 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:09 pm

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i think we can easily find the wolf in 1/4
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Post Post #6095 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:11 pm

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In post 6093, chennisden wrote:titus rn u dont get to call other people scum
I do. I said I'd sheep the power pick, no matter how dumb as long as it wasn't 1 in 4.

By saving 1 in 4 until after we get scum in both pools, everyone outside the 1 in 4 is conftown.
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Post Post #6096 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:22 pm

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In post 6094, chennisden wrote:i think we can easily find the wolf in 1/4
Titus is right about this, because even if true, there’s still two other scum left in game and we can’t repick this, so 1/4 terrible choice for next power. Ideally, it should be used when only one scum left in the game.
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Post Post #6097 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:23 pm

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In post 6091, chennisden wrote:succint is literally only conf town now
Do I really need to repost that Captain Obvious meme again?
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Post Post #6098 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 6085, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6081, Creature wrote:
In post 6073, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6070, Creature wrote:Can we do something that will actually help us solve the game tomorrow?
In post 6071, Creature wrote:Something that involves actually flipping someone.
I think the only power that can reveal the entire scumteam is rank, I think?

But there is no limit to how many times we can vote lynch.

So probably not, we will have to vote another power tomorrow then only the next day, can we do anything like that.
We can use vengeful

We can use arena (now that RC brought it up)

Just don't select things like protect that won't give us any info at all on anyone's alignment.
Venge gives scum a free NK so that’s bad because if we correctly lynch scum, either RC and me will die. Moon will 100% kill either of us, so no.

Why do we ever need to use venge at all when we can select lynch indefinitely?
Again:
In post 2, BNL wrote:Choose by majority vote a player to eliminate from the game. That player can choose another player to eliminate from the game.
Mafia cannot kill after this power
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Unless you think we're giving scum venge, but a 1 for 1 trade still seems worth it.
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Post Post #6099 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:49 pm

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In post 6098, Creature wrote:
In post 6085, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6081, Creature wrote:
In post 6073, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6070, Creature wrote:Can we do something that will actually help us solve the game tomorrow?
In post 6071, Creature wrote:Something that involves actually flipping someone.
I think the only power that can reveal the entire scumteam is rank, I think?

But there is no limit to how many times we can vote lynch.

So probably not, we will have to vote another power tomorrow then only the next day, can we do anything like that.
We can use vengeful

We can use arena (now that RC brought it up)

Just don't select things like protect that won't give us any info at all on anyone's alignment.
Venge gives scum a free NK so that’s bad because if we correctly lynch scum, either RC and me will die. Moon will 100% kill either of us, so no.

Why do we ever need to use venge at all when we can select lynch indefinitely?
Again:
In post 2, BNL wrote:Choose by majority vote a player to eliminate from the game. That player can choose another player to eliminate from the game.
Mafia cannot kill after this power
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Unless you think we're giving scum venge, but a 1 for 1 trade still seems worth it.
How? We also block NKs by not voting for powers that make them possible. Well unless you’re proposing mislynching an obvious lhf, yes. If we correctly lynch scum, you know either RC or me are the logical VK.

You’re starting to worry me again with this. :/
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