Newbie 1934: Tundra (Game Over)

[Flavor Leaf]

Disagree. That’s the exact scum kill I would make in this scenario as Scum in Irrelephant’s position.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s a good night kill with solid reasoning that wouldn’t incriminate Irrelephant by a player that isn’t me.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s a good night kill with solid reasoning that wouldn’t incriminate Irrelephant by a player that isn’t me.

The isn’t me part is the most relevant, because he isn’t trying to get me to town read him. He’s trying to get other people to not take stock into what i say.

[teacher]

despite the lint in my mouth from all the posts he quoted.

I saw the early counter push as a pocket, but then he flipped on me - partially to put voted and has since repeat acknowledged my “underwhelming” performance. The man is smooth, but this doesn’t feel like a pocket to me so much as a genuine effort to solve. He has done repeated testing of the waters throughout the thread - including the selfvote. I see a lot more effort to hunt from him than I have seen in his scumgames - both played with him and meta’ed.

[teacher]

It’s a good night kill with solid reasoning that wouldn’t incriminate Irrelephant by a player that isn’t me.

The isn’t me part is the most relevant, because he isn’t trying to get me to town read him. He’s trying to get other people to not take stock into what i say.

Disagree. He is actively trying to get you to explain what your saying, so it isn’t just a vets take, but the logic is also explained so it can be weighed.

[Flavor Leaf]

This could easily just be you doing a similar thing to him.

ScumTeacher also kills Irrelephant in this scenario if Irrelephant is town.

I’m always a solid choice for the Night Kill as well, because it relieves pressure off of you guys. Even if it incriminates you a little, that’s much easier to fight against than me actively in this game.

At least One of you 2 are lock scum, though.

Scum in the newbies doesn’t just sit back here.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s a good night kill with solid reasoning that wouldn’t incriminate Irrelephant by a player that isn’t me.

The isn’t me part is the most relevant, because he isn’t trying to get me to town read him. He’s trying to get other people to not take stock into what i say.

Disagree. He is actively trying to get you to explain what your saying, so it isn’t just a vets take, but the logic is also explained so it can be weighed.

I explained this when I was talking with Menal about why it was different between Elephant doing it and Menalque.

Menalque was trying to work with me.

Irrelephant was trying to work me.

[teacher]

Ehh. Imma continue my spot read through on mobile. We just are coming from different priors I feel. I don’t see it how you do.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, if you try to convince me that irrelephant is town, then I’m just gonna see you as the scum, and vice versa.

I know I’m town, and scum doesn’t not let me push through a mislynch on one of you.

Scum is literally shooting themselves in the arm by not going along with me or allowing a gamestate where I can push through one of you.

That means there is scum within you 2.

[teacher]

You were looking for a reaction from me?

Meh. Couldn't care less really, fake vote. Teacher isn't getting lynched today unless he posts a Mafia thread thread post in this thread by mistake.

No idea what you're trying to achieve but I'd assumed it wouldn't be helped by me sticking my oar in.

You moved off me after this, but of everything I wanted to say Friday, this post was the most jarring. You were voting me and pushing me. Why the shift?

[teacher]

I mean, if you try to convince me that irrelephant is town, then I’m just gonna see you as the scum, and vice versa.

I know I’m town, and scum doesn’t not let me push through a mislynch on one of you.

Scum is literally shooting themselves in the arm by not going along with me or allowing a gamestate where I can push through one of you.

That means there is scum within you 2.

This is an interesting take, but it seems to ignore the possibility of inactive scum, or that scum have boxed themselves into a semi pocket. It also seems to ignore the gamestate where I am the second wagon and most likely lynch if there is a claim. Too many assumptions for me to give it much weight, but it is a perspective that makes sense.

[teacher]

scum have boxed themselves into a semi pocket

To explain this more, most slots have undated at least opennes to me, and have Townes elephant enough to make a hop to him hard (especially since your push has been more on me than him until now).

[teacher]

Voted>ray>Baezu for me.

I’m less willing to put stock in a scum manipulated stagnant gamestate considering that we are on a later page for day 1 than I’ve see. In many newbies and most of the people you hav fingered have high votecounts.

These are the slots who have just not advanced the game. Voted got near lynch, which is when the real counterwagonib efforts began, without a good explanation as to what was wrong with the original wagon. Baezu is the wildcard where Bobs enterence was awkward, and surprisingly few commented or read into his afk exit.

I think these are the best choices for D-1. Given the deadline issues I will put raya back to L-1. I’d rather voted but I’m on a vanity wagon there and deadline is too close.

VOTE: raya

thi is again L-1

[Flavor Leaf]

Intent to hammer in less than an hour

[teacher]

VOTE: unvote

[teacher]

Ayfkm?

[teacher]

I guess I’ll keep it at L-2, but

voted should certainly claim because my intent is there and clearly flavors is as well

, notmafia style

[teacher]

Freud rears his ugly head.

Raya (not Voted) should claim. I will repost my vote in appr 15 hours.

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[teacher]

Oh for gods sake. I shouldn’t try to play on mobile. Both Menalque and elephant unvoted. It was only L-2.

VOTE: raya

This is L-2 not L-1.

[teacher]

@elephant can you do a whole board reads?

[teacher]

@539

Nah mate. You’re off on at least me. Like your worldview makes sense (I had been suspecting an SE scum because of the newb strength), but I don’t get why elephant would push so hard against a town!me lynch. Likewise, I don’t see why scum!you pushes me so hard today rather than lay seeds that would definitely bear fruit in later days.

This is kind of awkward to admit but I somehow missed 524 in my skim through the thread, as you can tell from the vote count issue. Also makes my discussion with you feel somewhat nonsensical as well. Sorry if you thought I wasn’t making sense.

[teacher]

@Flavor - I just ISO’d you and I don’t actually see where you explain the eggs townread so much as state it five times. Can you verbalize the why?

[Flavor Leaf]

Nope, because I’m no longer there with Eggs. He’s right there above Cinnamon and lower than the others now

[Flavor Leaf]

I guess I’ll keep it at L-2, but

voted should certainly claim because my intent is there and clearly flavors is as well

, notmafia style

What do you mean?

I’ve been known for coming out of nowhere with my

“did somebody say L-1?” Hammer catchphrase since 2014.

[teacher]

Nope, because I’m no longer there with Eggs. He’s right there above Cinnamon and lower than the others now

Ok.
So you are something like:
FL
Menalque
Baezu
Raya
Voted
Eggs
Cinnamon
Teacher
Elephant

If I’ve understood you right?