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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:22 am

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texas holdem best card game imo
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:31 am

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ERF is better. :P
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:40 am

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Texas Holdem is the best out of the gambling card games that I know. "Card game" is too general a category for me to pick one best.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:40 am

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Okay so nomnom is one of:
1) Town with PR which triggers on admins posting, fakeclaiming survivor for some reason - Why not just be honest, other people have already claimed having PRs which trigger on NPC posts.
2) Town fakeclaiming as some kind of gambit, - ruled out by own admission
3) Telling the truth - A possibility
4) Scum with PR which triggers on admins posting, fakeclaiming survivor to make it happen and willing to take the blame when they don't disappear. - A bold move
5) Scum fakeclaiming as some kind of pretend gambit, - similarly unlikely by own admission, they'd be trying to pretend to be doing 2 but they've ruled out 2.
6) Scum betting on Kison not showing up. -BOLD MOVE
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:43 am

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Main possibilities are 3,4, and 6. Unless 4 is an exceptionally powerful PR which can be used before night, in all cases seems best to just get it to happen and then either 3 occurs visibly or we lynch.
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:46 am

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In the meantime Roster needs either more votes or to answer my question of how he's doing today. Or both, depending on his answer.

Zoraster just joined the 2019 SUPP discord, in case any NPC wants to hunt him down.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 772, Jingle wrote:Mastina, do you have any recent Pine town examples?
There aren't any recent anything examples from me. I haven't played a game (iirc) in almost a year.

w/r/t nomnomnom, my gut is saying this is a scum play. I don't see the benefit in claiming third party here...there's just not a real positive effect from it. Just carry on, get a non-player to do your recruiting, as I did.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:52 am

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VOTE: nomnomnom
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 831, Pine wrote:There aren't any recent anything examples from me. I haven't played a game (iirc) in almost a year.
There's a madness to the method, dear Pine. The question isn't about you, it's about how she responds.
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 832, Pine wrote:VOTE: nomnomnom
imagine voting a claimed survivor
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:54 am

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that has an achievable wincon nonetheless
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 828, Who wrote:6) Scum betting on Kison not showing up. -BOLD MOVE
ngl that would be kind of sick if that's what was actually going on
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:56 am

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@Jingle - Nah. Mastina's history with me is too complex. You're not going to get anything rational out of her about me. It drives her fucking BONKERS that she can't read me for shit.

PE: I'm not voting a claimed survivor, I'm voting someone I think is more likely to be scum than telling the truth.
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 827, Who wrote:Texas Holdem is the best out of the gambling card games that I know. "Card game" is too general a category for me to pick one best.
You can gamble with a lot of card games. For example, I'm partial to gambling solitaire myself, and both BS and War have easily adaptations for gambling.

Not to mention Faro, which is awesome via associations despite being inherently broken.

Hold 'em
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:57 am

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don't forget to vote pine when my wincon gets achieved today, thank me later for the free scum serving themselves on a silver platter lmao
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:59 am

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In post 837, Pine wrote:@Jingle - Nah. Mastina's history with me is too complex. You're not going to get anything rational out of her about me. It drives her fucking BONKERS that she can't read me for shit.
If it helps, my method for reading you is assume you're Jingle.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:59 am

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I've always liked Baseball poker.

I actually find that a bit flattering, Jingle. <3
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:01 am

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I have never actually gambled on cards, I'm just talking about things which are stereotypically seen as gambling games.
BS has lots of variants, the variant in which the rank remains the same but you're allowed to pass is great, the variant in which the rank increases by one each player and you're not allowed to pass is not great.
War, if you're doing that just go for coin flips.
Solitaire I am not a fan of.
Faro I have never seen.

Hold 'em is better than the other common variant in which there are no common cards, but there are lots of variants of poker so I won't rule out one being better.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:08 am

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all survivors must die, in my experience they always side with scum, nomnom defend thyself and pledge extreme loyalty to town
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:12 am

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In post 843, EeveeLution Army wrote:all survivors must die, in my experience they always side with scum, nomnom defend thyself and pledge extreme loyalty to town
Exactly.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:17 am

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Eh. Survivors die the day before LYLO, and are thus incentivized to scumhunt even more than regular town. The tradeoff being they pretty much can't be nightkilled.

Balance wise they're a guaranteed mislynch.
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:30 am

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Which kind of proves my point. If nomnomnom were ACTUALLY a survivor, they gain nothing but problems by claiming it. Scum, however, can use the claim to lead investigations and other actions away from themselves, and then when endgame rolls around can say “why lynch me when you have a real threat to lynch.”

An actual survivor shouldn’t have claimed it like that, not so early with no pressure. QED, likely lying scum.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:31 am

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This is different to survivor though. This is survivor who has claimed to mislynch themselves without interfering with the rest of us provided we get a certain event to happen.
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:31 am

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If it's true we don't waste a lynch. If it's a scum lie then we just lynch them after they've been proven to lie.
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:40 am

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I have 1 scum caught dead to rights

But I'm not putting them unless I get something in return

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