Newbie 1934: Tundra (Game Over)

[teacher]

Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.

Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

If they role blocked, whatever, they give up their kill and it essentially does the same thing.

[Flavor Leaf]

Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.

Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.

Lol

[teacher]

No mafia roleblocker can block and kill in the same night.

[Cinnamon]

Spoiler: Role List

Player List:

thenavneet

Paladin159, DogDino -

Vanilla Townie

Cometbright

-

Vanilla Townie

ClearlyClarity

GreedyDemon -

Vanilla Townie

cpol

-

Town Jailkeeper

CapnCrunch

-

Mafia Goon

Datisi

hamedk1378 -

Vanilla Townie

RadiantCowbells

-

Mafia Roleblocker

Egix96

-

Town Doctor

NotMySpamAccount

-

Vanilla Townie

Setup: Column A & Row 2: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Night Actions

Night 1:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks no one
cpol jailkeeps ClearlyClarity - ClearlyClarity is protected and roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells nightkills no one

Night 2:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks Datisi - Datisi is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps ClearlyClarity - ClearlyClarity is protected and roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells kills cpol - fails because cpol is protected

Night 3:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks Cometbright - Cometbright is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps ClearlyClarity - ClearlyClarity is protected and roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells kills cpol - fails because cpol is protected

Night 4:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks cpol - cpol is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps RadiantCowbells - fails because cpol is roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells kills Datisi - Datisi flips Vanilla Townie

Night 5:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks cpol - cpol is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps RadiantCowbells - fails because cpol is roleblocked
RadiantCowbells kills Cometbright - Cometbright flips Vanilla Townie

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The thread will now be opened for post game discussion. Thanks to everyone for playing!

[Cinnamon]

This is from Newbie 1929, RC won by doing exactly that, roleblocking and killing

[teacher]

Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.

Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.

Lol

Elephant kindly weigh in here to show the proper strat. It’s not massclaim.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ah.

Still whatever.

I think scum is against mass claiming in this scenario anyways.

[Flavor Leaf]

This is from Newbie 1929, RC won by doing exactly that, roleblocking and killing

I’ve never been scum in my 20+ newbie games, so makes sense I was wrong.

[Flavor Leaf]

Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.

Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.

Lol

Elephant kindly weigh in here to show the proper strat. It’s not massclaim.

Lol

[Cinnamon]

Again, tracker or neapolitan with VT should claim otherwise it would be more wise to wait.

[Flavor Leaf]

Everyone always says stuff like that, but that’s a flaw in mechanical based players. That just risks not getting any results because of potential PR’s dying in the night which is how scum skate by and coast.

I always think town shouldn’t be greedy and just give their results in these positions, because you get to see how scum react afterwards, and townies become super obvious in newbie setups.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think any claims should come out, and I’ll argue this post game if you want, because there’s literally zero reasons that would ever convince me otherwise.

Been through this argument many times.

I’m also not a mechanical player like most players.

Everyone always thinks that I want this big fancy pull off the solo victory from way behind victory for some reason, but I’d rather just have great team cohesion, and work together.

[teacher]

Again, tracker or neapolitan with VT should claim otherwise it would be more wise to wait.

No even then it’s better to wait for two clears and auto. There is no need for claims today unless we are lynching a clear.

[Cinnamon]

A tracker with a VT is an autowin already.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, scum tend to pick up PR crumbs more than town, and at this point, i feel getting everyone on the same page minimizes scum’s informed minority advantage, but people like to argue against that for some reason because they’d rather go mechanical analysis than actually just analyze, which in conjunction to mechanical, it’s just plain stronger play.

[Cinnamon]

A neapolitan with a VT is likely an autowin and at that point I'd agree with Flavor that its the correct decision because there is some value (even though I think it's less than just waiting) in claiming earlier and its made up for by the fact that waiting is a risk.

[Flavor Leaf]

Teacher is clearly scum here trying to avoid having people claim anything.

[Flavor Leaf]

As scum, the way I am playing guarantees I lose.

I’m actually objectively town here, but I digress.

[teacher]

Everyone always says stuff like that, but that’s a flaw in mechanical based players. That just risks not getting any results because of potential PR’s dying in the night which is how scum skate by and coast.

I always think town shouldn’t be greedy and just give their results in these positions, because you get to see how scum react afterwards, and townies become super obvious in newbie setups.

You’ve heard of crumbs right?

[Flavor Leaf]

The plays I’m trying to make happen, guarantees I do not win the game as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Everyone always says stuff like that, but that’s a flaw in mechanical based players. That just risks not getting any results because of potential PR’s dying in the night which is how scum skate by and coast.

I always think town shouldn’t be greedy and just give their results in these positions, because you get to see how scum react afterwards, and townies become super obvious in newbie setups.

You’ve heard of crumbs right?

Lol.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m the master of crumbs. Go check Overkill 2.

[Cinnamon]

I think what you're suggesting here Flavor will be bad in a number of setups that can only guarantee two confirmed townies who will die in the night like in A2, A3 and C1 but I suppose we can talk about this more post game.

[teacher]

Teacher is clearly scum here trying to avoid having people claim anything.

We have a stray disagreement. Why I want Elephant to weigh in, since I know I’m playing the statistically better play and he can validate it.

Pedit: if you master crumbs, then there is little risk of losing pr results.

Off til tonight.