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[Cinnamon]

like

u r a person 2 (2): Nero Cain, Saladman27

here im sitting on the largest non-vork wagon

VOTE: teacher

I'm starting to think this is worth exploring actually.

and this is where the teacher wagon became a thing.

and I voted him

urap is going nowhere.

VOTE: teacher


I like that better than vork

So I "hesitated" to vote him for less than 24 hours.

Yes but urap had been going nowhere for a while and there had been some discussion on teacher leading up to this. Maybe this is my inexperience with forum mafia showing but you posted a number of times in those 24 hours. I would think that if you really were so in favor of a teacher wagon you would do something to that effect earlier.

[Nero Cain]

fterwards you talk about teacher and

urap

a bit but from this post I got that your focus had shifted

Why is only 281relevant to you but when I continue to talk about urap it doesn't matter?

[Cinnamon]

Because past this point you talk about both teacher and urap roughly equally. From this post I assumed that you wanted teacher and DP over urap, even though you scumread all 3. I'm not sure why you think it's so weird for me to get that impression from your posts.

[Nero Cain]

I would think that if you really were so in favor of a teacher wagon you would do something to that effect earlier.

I was "hesitating" remember? I mean, ok I hesitated for less than 24 hours. Teachers was useless with his vote for 3+ days. It's not at all the same and I'm not sure why you think the guy that was useless with his vote for less time is scummier than the guy sat on his "town read" for 3 days.

[Nero Cain]

Because past this point you talk about both teacher and urap roughly equally.

From this post I assumed that you wanted teacher and DP over urap,

from your own logic, why would I want DP if I stopped talking about him?

[Nero Cain]

but 281 proves you wanted Teacher over urap!.

just stop guy.

[Cinnamon]

I never said it proves anything. I'm explaining where my logic is coming from and the way that you're shutting it down is really frustrating.

[Cinnamon]

I just finished my game with teacher a couple days ago, where he was acting exactly like he is now. I thought he was mafia for most of that game, and it turns out he was town. That's why I voted him in the first place and it's also the reason why I unvoted him once I found out that's just how he plays as town.

[Cinnamon]

On the other hand, I see you as a player that doesn't normally include hesitating like that in their playstyle since you are aggressive with your pushes so it seemed weird to me that you were calling him out for it when you did it yourself, even if the way you did it was not as egregious as the way teacher did.

[teacher]

There's

You win. White snake. Thanks.

[teacher]

Nero can you talk bout urap?

[Nero Cain]

sure.

What do you want me to say about him?

[Nero Cain]

I mean, you don't think the time should be a big factor here?

And there's also a difference between Teacher not being called out and me

CONSOLIDATING

As you said I've been vocal so you guys knew I'd eventually join there. Are >24 hours really that important?

[teacher]

sure.

What do you want me to say about him?

Explain your read. I haven’t seen much solves from him. I mean, I liked how he played the start and read into me and where his vote is, so I lean him town but I normally expect more push/presence.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, haven't you answered your own question?

I haven’t seen much solves from him.

I mean, I can run down his ISO later if ya want but I was thinking about giving the computer a break for the night.

[teacher]

I’d appreciate it later. Have a good night.

[EvilDeanius]

There's not alot there that I particularly dislike but there was a point where people seemed to start talking about him for lack of proper content, at which point he then switched to pushing on others who also hadn't done anything/alot. The timing just seems like a deflection to me, it seems off.

This is a good observation insofar as people pushing me for content when I don't really feel like doing things on day 1 tends to work, but I don't think it's a great reason to "gut" scumread me

Can you expand on your Vork townread (given you list him as TvT with nomnom)? That's been the basis for a good part of Dunn's iso so it would help me if you could comment on whether you see Dunn's push as townie if Vork town is one of your stronger/only reads.

Vork seems town because I feel like they would be more cautious about their pushes as scum. I don't think scum immediately attacks a miller claim in the way that they did, they just sort of let it sit for a while. They've also been very self assured of their pushes, and I think that comes with someone who cares more about lynching scum than just appearing townie.

[Detective Pikachu]

Vork seems town because I feel like they would be more cautious about their pushes as scum. I don't think scum immediately attacks a miller claim in the way that they did, they just sort of let it sit for a while. They've also been very self assured of their pushes, and I think that comes with someone who cares more about lynching scum than just appearing townie.

Cool.

Do you have a read of Dunn?

[Dunnstral]

I think saladman has some bad reasonings but he seems genuine, seems like town to me

[NerfedBuJ]

Page 12 ego game solve for the post-game brag:

Town: nomnom, cinnamon, skitter, dunn, nero cain, evil D, flubber, vork

Leftovers: urap, saladman, teacher, Pikachu

VOTE: Pikachu

Now that pikachu has been producing content, are you still here?

Yes it's more or less the same.
I would add evilD to the scum pool but I don't like who's voting him so I think that still points to him being town.

I'll laugh at you all when pikachu flips scum though. I mean not even 1 of you voted with me which is pretty annoying.

VOTE: teacher

[skitter30]

Cinnamon is still p townie imo

[skitter30]

There's not alot there that I particularly dislike but there was a point where people seemed to start talking about him for lack of proper content, at which point he then switched to pushing on others who also hadn't done anything/alot. The timing just seems like a deflection to me, it seems off.

This is a good observation insofar as people pushing me for content when I don't really feel like doing things on day 1 tends to work, but I don't think it's a great reason to "gut" scumread me

Can you expand on your Vork townread (given you list him as TvT with nomnom)? That's been the basis for a good part of Dunn's iso so it would help me if you could comment on whether you see Dunn's push as townie if Vork town is one of your stronger/only reads.

Vork seems town because I feel like they would be more cautious about their pushes as scum. I don't think scum immediately attacks a miller claim in the way that they did, they just sort of let it sit for a while. They've also been very self assured of their pushes, and I think that comes with someone who cares more about lynching scum than just appearing townie.

Do u have any scumreads? Iirc you're still not voting?

[Flubbernugget]

I guess I'll give Vork this point, it's that people only followed Vork's case when Skitter appeared in the thread and made that case despite me presenting the exact same arguments. THAT is strange.

tbh that fact alone means that if vork is actually town, teacher is probably 100% scum here. And even then that kind of observation makes me think that it could be an equally good lynch for today.

I feel like I missed a post or something, how does that make teacher scum?

When you have two people making the same case but the one that was made later down the road with the exact same argument has a player joining it simply because it actually took off this time, that's scummy. And that's what teacher did here.

This is another nonsensical read.

Skitter has significantly better communication skills than vork. That's a much better reason to attribute people sheeping skitter over vork

[Flubbernugget]

Vorkuta (4):

skitter30, Dunnstral, nomnomnom,
teacher

u r a person 2 (1):

Nero Cain

teacher (1):

Cinnamon

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

EvilDeanius (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (3):

EvilDeanius, Flubbernugget,
Saladman27

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
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I also might add that it adds up to NC's earlier argument for a teacher scumread that his vote served no true purpose and was a placeholder so yeah, this is definitely the kind of thing that catches my attention. Skitter tends to be highly respected in these games and I think it could play a huge psychological factor in people's decision making here.

Hmmmm.

You seem to acknowledge to a similar degree what I was getting at, but still come to a wildly different conclusion. I'd love to talk about this but honestly I don't wven know what to ask

[Flubbernugget]

Pikachu still reads like careful scum to me

And it's interesting how many townreads I seem to have attracted recently.

I wonder what was the catalyst.

I don't think the way pika is skeptical of their reads gives them the flexibility to change their read trajectories the way scum would want to