BTE: Boon Wars - The Boondom Menace

[Dr Easy Bake]

Cool, thanks Titus!

[Frozen Angel]

I haven't seen all the starwar movies and I don't know the name of movies I saw.

[Titus]

VC please

Here was the last one

I’ll get another one tonight when I get home and update front page with links.

[Dr Easy Bake]

I think most of the active votes are on Joan.

Thanks, Frozen!

[Dr Easy Bake]

Only three people left until my data collection is complete. Will post findings once it is over.
You've seen VCA, but you've never seen SWA like I'm going to drop on y'all.

[Titus]

Only three people left until my data collection is complete. Will post findings once it is over.
You've seen VCA, but you've never seen SWA like I'm going to drop on y'all.

*blinks*

Well people still shit on VCA. You do you...

[Something_Smart]

DEB, do you believe Joan's claim?

Not one bit, Krazy really made it clear in this post I feel:

Like, she's not an idiot. She can read a role card. She was softing something that was NOT friendly neighbor, realized if she kept softing that bullshit she was going to get lynched, and literally just changed claims.

The only thing Krazy made clear in that post was his confirmation bias. That post provides an explanation for her actions (and not a very GOOD one, because I think she's been around the block a few times when it comes to softing), but it doesn't provide any reason why that explanation is more likely than an alternative.

[Dr Easy Bake]

Idk S_S, I didn't like deeply read the multiple pages that had occurred overnight. I skimmed through, saw the claim change and then saw Krazy's post and it seemed to make sense to me. Also Friendly Neighbor seems like an easy claim D1 to whip out when under pressure. It's a claim that doesn't come with much info imo. We have to wait until D2 to get any confirmation of this. Like it's an easy way to get out of a lynch because "Hey wait till tomorrow! I'll show you then!" I don't trust easy way outs typically. Does this make sense?

[Something_Smart]

Yeah, it does. I have seen scum claim friendly neighbor to get out of a D1 lynch, too. And-- spoiler alert-- it didn't work out very well for him. And he was at L-1 with intent, way more pressure than Joan was under.

The thing is, Joan started softing reflexive before she was under any pressure at all. That makes me think that the reflexive part, at least, is true. Now that makes me wonder what scum reflexive role she'd soft as, because there probably aren't many.

As for the reflexive friendly neighbor, well, that's something that's EXTREMELY easy to verify. Much easier than a regular friendly neighbor, because she can't hide behind "oh I targeted the guy who died."

And finally, she was dodgy about her claim, but I don't really understand the perception that she "changed" it. She claimed reflexive, then she claimed friendly neighbor, then she claimed reflexive friendly neighbor. She only clarified it, never changed it.

[Something_Smart]

The thing about distrusting the easy way out is that sometimes it's true. It's right to be skeptical of it-- but skeptics seek verification, they don't automatically assume something's false because it doesn't feel right.

[Frozen Angel]

So I think I better claim this rn. I'm technically some sort sleepwalker - as I "Have to" target people at night. That action will do nothing - I will be just seen visiting them.

Thing is that is ironically so compatible with the reflexive claim JoA did.

[Something_Smart]

Perfect! We know exactly who you can target now

Is there a reason for the two of you to not claim your flavor?

[Frozen Angel]

I don't want to flavor claim. Not sure how will that affect my teammate. Let me talk to them about this and get back to you.

I'm actually a bit worried about targeting her. If she is a scum I'm dead. If she is not scum: I've been playing on mu for about a year where they have this role commonly - called arms dealer - it turns someone veteran and kills all or at least one random vistor of them. Idk if something like that exists on ms - but that role makes sense in a setup like this where I have to sleep walk.

But idk...

[Frozen Angel]

But yeah I think I'm the best person mechanically to do the job

[Something_Smart]

Boon has banned PGO, that role sounds like something on the same level, so I seriously doubt he'd put that in.

Probably your visitor is meant to interact with reflexive roles, like Joan's.

[Frozen Angel]

oh so PGO is banned thats good news

[Joan of Arc]

The thing about distrusting the easy way out is that sometimes it's true. It's right to be skeptical of it-- but skeptics seek verification, they don't automatically assume something's false because it doesn't feel right.

He gets it.

[Joan of Arc]

And my response for Star Wars question is the same as Moon Logic Queen's response.

[Titus]

oh so PGO is banned thats good news

So each setup runs by Boon rules?

[ofrhz]

VOTE: bins

[Xtoxm]

those 2 roles fit together so nicely, i find it hard not to believe both of them.
we can set this to side for today, now.

[Joan of Arc]

Idk S_S, I didn't like deeply read the multiple pages that had occurred overnight. I skimmed through, saw the claim change and then saw Krazy's post and it seemed to make sense to me. Also Friendly Neighbor seems like an easy claim D1 to whip out when under pressure. It's a claim that doesn't come with much info imo. We have to wait until D2 to get any confirmation of this. Like it's an easy way to get out of a lynch because "Hey wait till tomorrow! I'll show you then!" I don't trust easy way outs typically. Does this make sense?

And if I don't show nothin', you can lynch me, and game, set, match.

[Creature]

i'll claim this now.
i'm informed town.
it's fairly cryptic, but its basically in the future, there is fire and ice.
we (being me and worm) think it's a reference to this setup https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fire_and_Ice possibly in relation to the episode 2 multiball game. so there it folks, maybe someone can get use out of it.

Oh no, so it's fucking multiball.

[Creature]

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Actually, Something_Smart can be town

[Bins]

can we unvote the confirmable innocent now