Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

actually if we flip scum we should call a friend but it's optimal to try to flip town with reveal.

[Titus]

actually if we flip scum we should call a friend but it's optimal to try to flip town with reveal.

Which is why if we do reveal, we reveal me. Town cannot have you angle shooting me.

[RadiantCowbells]

"angle shooting you"

[RadiantCowbells]

i think chennis is scum and partner is maria or titus

i want to reveal in [maria/titus]

[Time Devil]

call a friend requires us to do a normal lynch which is incredibly suboptimal.

it's reveal -> 1of4 -> venge from here

if we do reveal you're the one getting revealed

a bulletproof IC would be pretty OP

and 1of4 is suboptimal right now.

I think treestump Titus is our best bet.

VOTE: Treestump

-TL

[RadiantCowbells]

there's literally no benefit to treestump over any of the other options.

[RadiantCowbells]

also, I'm no longer bulletproof if I get revealed in case you didn't read the OP.

so, how about that moongrass lynch?

[RadiantCowbells]

i think maria reveal is more valuable than titus reveal regardless of what she flips.
i have no mental desire to have to try to push a lynch through on maria right now.

i still can't see skygazer scum. i still don't think TD ate ever comes from scum. i'm scared of titus maria i guess but if we hit scum we can still venge and clear both slots

iow, i don't think we can lose from here unless we play suboptimally, and following my plan doesn't involve anyone in this game having to trust me to be town aligned.

[RadiantCowbells]

actually untrue: if we flip scum today then autowin involves assuming me to be town.

to that end, i want to be uninvolved in the decision of who to flip between Titus and Maria so that if we flip scum that decision can't be pushed as my responsibility.

[RadiantCowbells]

i think that titus realizes the mechanics well enough to understand that reveal being pushed on her is optimal if scum so i'm not reading into that.
anyway. can everyone give their thoughts on who is

more likely

to be town in titus and maria? if you think they're both scum, pick your weaker scumread. if you think they're both town, pick your stronger townread, etc.

[RadiantCowbells]

adding to the list: everything that i've said about overkill still stands.

[RadiantCowbells]

scum can't win unless they convince you both to scumread me and to not trust my townreads

[Titus]

there's literally no benefit to treestump over any of the other options.

*cough TD is scum*

[Time Devil]

maria town, titus prob!scum

so I reveal the scummier of the 2, or at least not townlock

-TL

[RadiantCowbells]

3 votes for maria

[Time Devil]

that's if Reveal gets picked and not Treestump or a different power nobody cares about (hint: voting Quiz is a scumclaim)

-TL

[Skygazer]

id be down to reveal maria or titus;;

[RadiantCowbells]

why are you even bringing up quiz right now

[Time Devil]

3 votes for maria

where are you getting these numbers from?

why are you even bringing up quiz right now

just pointing out it's the absolute worst power we can use right now (we quiz, we lose).

so therefore voting Quiz is basically "I'm scum."

-TL

[RadiantCowbells]

RC you and Maria's implicit self vote

No reason for her to not support herself, like, regardless of alignment

[RadiantCowbells]

I feel a lot more motivated without NF and MG

[RadiantCowbells]

Also I think she forfeited any right to crying about being flipped for being Maria when she lurksacked the entire game.

[Time Devil]

RC you and Maria's implicit self vote

No reason for her to not support herself, like, regardless of alignment

so you think I'm revealing obv!town over someone who has a very high chance of being a deepwolf.

-TL

[Skygazer]

revealing maria and titus and hitting town gives us a townbloc of me/rc/[titus/maria]

rc doesn't get nk'd, revealed doesn't get nk'd, meaning i get nk'd

we'd have a pool of chennis/[maria/titus]/0verkill/td

uhhh if we reveal scum then we venge in our non revealed pool and if they're scum it's auto and if they're town they can just venge the revealed scum, right??

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you want the mathematical explanation of why flipping town is optimal today?

If we go for scum and hit scum that means I win as deepwolf. Is that a chance you're willing to take?