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[skitter30]

Urap struggles to generate organic townreads connected to specific points as scum so these posts are all fairly town indicative for him

Not 100% but I'd say my read on him for this is way above random for this game at least. Probably won't work in next but *shrug*

Skitter, what's your take on U2's scum meta? Do you agree with Pika's assessment?

i'm not sure if remember that specific point from his scum-game; i know that he as scum has a tendency to need to force himself to produce content and he just kinda lacks a game-solving wim that he has as town

[nomnomnom]

I also know a good reason this is a fakeclaim is simply the timing she got it out. And the fact that when URAP questioned her ungated claim, she claimed a modifier but didn't want to discuss it.

This is textbook LAMIST.

[u r a person 2]

Yet you're still voting me. Where are you reevaluating? You seem to be talking to me with an agenda: prove Shoshin is scum. Where's the genuine attempts to sort me based on probability & facts?

oh i kind of thought these were rhetorical

Like literally this exercise that we're going through right now is me reevaluating. I'd rather you be town, if we're being real. and as an aside, scum!me does not try to lynch town!you by engaging with you lol. That is not a winning strategy, do you think?

[skitter30]

It's also a terrible idea to read players based on the difficulty of building wagons around them. There's only so many scum in a game to protect each other, and scum tend to bus their own in situations like this anyway.

strongly disagree but whatever

[Vorkuta]

Holy shit the tunneling this game is real

Spoiler:

Talk to me about vork.

I'm adding Nero/Vorkuta to the list of town.

Talk to me about vork.

Ok. Why was vork town before that?

Can you sell me on vork?

Can’t answer vork.

Why is vork town?

FFS why aren’t you answering the vork question.

Answer the vork question.

So why, oh, why, isnt the solution to lynch vork?

[Nero Cain]

vote Shoshin, comrade

[Shoshin]

Yet you're still voting me. Where are you reevaluating? You seem to be talking to me with an agenda: prove Shoshin is scum. Where's the genuine attempts to sort me based on probability & facts?

oh i kind of thought these were rhetorical

Like literally this exercise that we're going through right now is me reevaluating. I'd rather you be town, if we're being real. and as an aside, scum!me does not try to lynch town!you by engaging with you lol. That is not a winning strategy, do you think?

Scum you engaged with me a lot as JM. I think you tend to engage a lot as either alignment. It's NAI. As scum, the biggest thing for me is that you didn't reevaluate at all. I didn't see movement in your reads after I called you out on stuff. I'm also not seeing movement here. I'm not seeing you take the clear evidence that this is likely town & applying that to the game. You're continuing to vote me. Your claim to be reevaluating doesn't mean anything if you're not actually showing movement in the read.

[u r a person 2]

i mean ... do u still really want to do this?
i'm more confident on town!her than town!you rn

although tbf idk if scum!you says this knowing she'll flip green

I mean, I'm kind of thinking ya

Can you walk me through or point me at why she is so far out of her scum range?

[teacher]

Yea, I absolutely agree with you Nom. Like to the point that I think I always scumread shos. But The aggravating (and unjustified) confidence is personality not alignment. I had been on her for the slot history and the wagon. She is saying accuratea things about her meta.

[skitter30]

oh teacher and urap aren't svs together i'm p sure

i think i could go back to teacher actually

[nomnomnom]

So why, oh, why, isnt the solution to lynch vork?

Seriously, like if youre so strong on associatives, why not lynch it? At least that way you have covered the chance youre wrong and allowed the cop 1-night, or forced scum to kill the cop.

I don't chicken out of reads because of a claim I know is bullshit from start to finish.

[Vorkuta]

vote Shoshin, comrade

I require information straight from KGB headquarters to confirm that CIA counterespionage did not compromise our evidence

a vote count

[teacher]

Holy shit the tunneling this game is real

Spoiler:

Talk to me about vork.

I'm adding Nero/Vorkuta to the list of town.

Talk to me about vork.

Ok. Why was vork town before that?

Can you sell me on vork?

Can’t answer vork.

Why is vork town?

FFS why aren’t you answering the vork question.

Answer the vork question.

So why, oh, why, isnt the solution to lynch vork?

Yes, I have a scumread on you. Yes, over the course of five of those posts Shoshin wasnt answering my question, so I kept asking it. Asking the same question of the same slot is real. I scumread her and saw the failure to answer as indicative (I know town!her sometimes refuses, but Im not willing to give that a pass or not scumread anti-town behavior)).

[Nero Cain]

I think I would like the sho lynch more if nom hadn't started pinging me just a little bit, but uhh, I also recognize that my 'pace' in deciding things like this tends to be a lot slower than most town are okay with

I'm going to tell you again.

This never flips cop. If it does, I will literally self vote tomorrow.

[nomnomnom]

Yea, I absolutely agree with you Nom. Like to the point that I think I always scumread shos. But The aggravating (and unjustified) confidence is personality not alignment. I had been on her for the slot history and the wagon. She is saying accuratea things about her meta.

This is a terrible statement to make.

She admitted she is capable of everything as scum. A player has all the reasons to try something new as last resort especially if they are desperate to try something and see what sticks.

There are reasons to claim cop here as scum and you know it. It's not a black or white game, it can have nuances. Think about it for a second and you will know what I mean.

[u r a person 2]

@URaP - why the jump to not counter? Isnt trading a PR for a scum always worth it?

If there is a town cop and shoshin is scum, here are the possibilities as i see them

town cop claims today, we lynch one of them and then the other if we guess wrong. town cop never gets a check because nk

town cop doesn't claim today, we lynch shoshin. cop can play their normal game and get their check(s)

town cop doesn't claim today, but claims tomorrow - same deal as the first situation, but town gets an extra check and scum gets an extra use of shoshin's pr (if any)

like, I'd rather the last two personally

[Shoshin]

There can be more than one cop, U2.

[Nero Cain]

Is urap saying something I agree with?

[skitter30]

i mean ... do u still really want to do this?
i'm more confident on town!her than town!you rn

although tbf idk if scum!you says this knowing she'll flip green

I mean, I'm kind of thinking ya

Can you walk me through or point me at why she is so far out of her scum range?

basically i don't think she's capable of in-real-time interaction like this when she's (singleball) scum
and i don't think she has this much wim/drive to avoid a lynch as scum either

[teacher]

because nk

Herein lies the problematic assumption.

[u r a person 2]

His recent push on me is the last straw. Please review how he decides to push me. He's ignoring key pieces of evidence to get me lynched.

Yeah I see what you're saying there. I kinda sympathize with him not doing the meta work tho. back in a few min

[teacher]

There can be more than one cop, U2.

In a 13p game?! This is about the scummiest thing youve said in this entire interchange.

[skitter30]

As for desperation:

Cinn & Flub, please unvote me.

Your iso contains a bunch of accusatory statements against people that push you too. As in, scum-accusation statements. All of this makes me feel you're just scum and that this is the angle you adopted this game.

this isn't desperation, it's a personality thing

[nomnomnom]

As for desperation:

Cinn & Flub, please unvote me.

Your iso contains a bunch of accusatory statements against people that push you too. As in, scum-accusation statements. All of this makes me feel you're just scum and that this is the angle you adopted this game.

this isn't desperation, it's a personality thing

Scumreading people that push you is a personality thing?

Lynch-worthy personality.

[Nero Cain]

and teacher saying something I like? WTF is this?