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[Shoshin]

His recent push on me is the last straw. Please review how he decides to push me. He's ignoring key pieces of evidence to get me lynched.

Yeah I see what you're saying there. I kinda sympathize with him not doing the meta work tho. back in a few min

He doesn't need to do meta work. He's straight-up making up a story about how lurk more as town than scum based on a sample size of one town game, zero scum games. It's absurd.

And he's intentionally ignoring the links I provided earlier showing that I strongly prefer playing town to scum. These links should prove that I'm more likely to be active as town than scum based solely on motivation behind the alignments.

This isn't something that town does when trying to sort someone who claimed cop.

[Shoshin]

There can be more than one cop, U2.

In a 13p game?! This is about the scummiest thing youve said in this entire interchange.

I can point to numerous 13p normal games with multiple cops. I said I had a modifier. It's not a full-strength cop.

[Shoshin]

I guess I'll just claim this much. I'm an odd-night [redacted] cop.

[skitter30]

As for desperation:

Cinn & Flub, please unvote me.

Your iso contains a bunch of accusatory statements against people that push you too. As in, scum-accusation statements. All of this makes me feel you're just scum and that this is the angle you adopted this game.

this isn't desperation, it's a personality thing

Scumreading people that push you is a personality thing?

Lynch-worthy personality.

no, the desperation

like you're calling her out on tone, i'm saying i have a fairly decent amount of experience with town!her having .... the exact same tone as this

i've never played with scum!her but i do this song-and-dance (ie defending her for bieng pushed for basically tone) each time, and the only time i was wrong was when she was 3p (and like the tells i use can't really differentiate between 3p!shoshin and town!shoshin becuase her scumhunting can look real as 3p)

the personality thing is *really* annoying to deal with, sure, but it isn't scummy for her

[Nero Cain]

whats a reacted cop?

[skitter30]

It was like watching a phoenix wright case unfold

?

[skitter30]

ED was obviously laying low because he was a PR.

Please unvote.

no i'm p sure they just site-flaked

[nomnomnom]

As for desperation:

Cinn & Flub, please unvote me.

Your iso contains a bunch of accusatory statements against people that push you too. As in, scum-accusation statements. All of this makes me feel you're just scum and that this is the angle you adopted this game.

this isn't desperation, it's a personality thing

Scumreading people that push you is a personality thing?

Lynch-worthy personality.

no, the desperation

like you're calling her out on tone, i'm saying i have a fairly decent amount of experience with town!her having .... the exact same tone as this

i've never played with scum!her but i do this song-and-dance (ie defending her for bieng pushed for basically tone) each time, and the only time i was wrong was when she was 3p (and like the tells i use can't really differentiate between 3p!shoshin and town!shoshin becuase her scumhunting can look real as 3p)

the personality thing is *really* annoying to deal with, sure, but it isn't scummy for her

I guess I probably would have reconsidered my case.

But she claimed cop and I know it's a bullshit claim.

[Nero Cain]

He's straight-up making up a story

no I'm not. lol b/c A.) It's a true statement and B.) you aren't even denying it. I'll admit that that's why I voting you but that's not why I have kept my vote on you and you are ignoring that. If ignoring things is scummy why aren't you scum for it but I am?

[skitter30]

You were appealing to emotion, and I really don't believe the 'ED was obvtown' statement

To be clear, whatever emotions I'm expressing are genuine. This isn't scummy, it's towny if anything.

I gave you evidence that I wouldn't replace a slot that I didn't townread. This evidence was from outside this game, so you know it's reliable. Why are you ignoring that?

i mean this is still kinda gross but whatever

pedit i have no idea if the claim is true or not, but i don't think she's scum

[Vorkuta]

It was like watching a phoenix wright case unfold

?

youtubespoiler

Spoiler:

[nomnomnom]

There can be more than one cop, U2.

In a 13p game?! This is about the scummiest thing youve said in this entire interchange.

I can point to numerous 13p normal games with multiple cops. I said I had a modifier. It's not a full-strength cop.

I guess I'll just claim this much. I'm an odd-night [redacted] cop.

This is her second time she adapts her claim to make it seem more genuine.

I am telling you, once more: this is a fakeclaim. Lynch this.

[Nero Cain]

hrmmmmmmm.......

[Detective Pikachu]

skitter do you notice big differences from https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=32655 in terms of solving or trajectory? I feel like I struggle to understand her thought process regardless of alignment tbh

I will say that her play this game doesn't feel outside her town range and the hyperconfidence of nom in the push has me feeling weird. But I'm struggling to come up with reasons to say "fuck no don't lynch sho rn." I kinda am at the "eh just give her a night and see if scum shoots her" but I feel like that's an incredibly lazy way to approach her slot and I don't know who I want lynched other than maybe nom/buj and that's not like "damn sure need to lynch them." I'm just kinda at a loss rn

[skitter30]

give me a few minutes to look at that, never looked at that game before

[Shoshin]

Pika, I don't understand why you'd even consider lynching me today? What are you finding actually scummy about me?

[Shoshin]

give me a few minutes to look at that, never looked at that game before

I lurked that game out.

[Detective Pikachu]

I don't know what you need to know about the game other than that she was in a great position for most of the game and then half her scum team got vigged and the worst bussed her at the end and that's when she stopped posting, so there's nothing from her at l-1 so all of the flail at the end of her iso is still at like the l-2/l-3 stage

[Nero Cain]

love how sho is talking about me but won't interact with me.

[skitter30]

i haven't gotten that far yet but it's like .... leagues different
she doesn't display anything close to the nuance of thought she's had here

[Shoshin]

But I'm struggling to come up with reasons to say "fuck no don't lynch sho rn."

Here's some simple reasons:

1. I claimed a PR.

2. Everything I'm doing is strongly town indicative for me.

3. My reads as town are very good & it's worth keeping me alive if I'm town because of that.

4. The harm of lynching town me is much greater than the harm of delaying my lynch.

I'm not scum, but even if I were, you could still lynch scum without lynching me. No matter how you look at this, lynching me today is the wrong move.

[teacher]

Shos, I know you softed, but did you role crumb at all? (also, Im still going back to your questions, but every fracking time I get one post in, its a page later and I have to click through 4 rounds of PEDITS)

[Detective Pikachu]

Pika, I don't understand why you'd even consider lynching me today? What are you finding actually scummy about me?

I mean I'm probably not voting you this daycycle, it's more a question of whether I can actually defend you. I'm like: can I argue Shoshin is town conclusively?

Like it would be a lot easier if you hadn't polluted the discussion with the massive "I don't play scum" argument when I feel like your play in Undertale wasn't that bad? So I'm like, kinda annoyed at you for trying to make that argument even though I'm not sure it's actually a scummy argument

I also don't want to just say "let's give every pr claim a day for the sake of giving every pr claim a day" cause then we just get every scum fakeclaiming pr and that gets kinda old too

[Shoshin]

i haven't gotten that far yet but it's like .... leagues different
she doesn't display anything close to the nuance of thought she's had here

This is what I keep saying.

I was the most townread player in that game, by the way. I know how to appear town as scum. But the idea that my town game looks anything like my scum game is wrong. It's very different.

[Detective Pikachu]

did you role crumb at all?

give me a break teacher no one crumbs role when at l-3 with no other wagons as a pr replacing into a game, all you do in that situation is try to get the wagon off you and try to figure out who you're going to replace as the consensus lynch without fucking it up and hitting town