Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

[skitter30]

*self-hammered

[skitter30]

Okay, but do you not think doc is a weird claim to make?

Also the immediate claim at L-1 threw me a bit, no one had announced intent then

Like I feel that scum fakeclaiming doc to try and force

the

real doc to come out wouldn’t make the fake claim until intent was posted

again, what's with the 'the'?

it implies that you think that there is definitely a doc in the game ... (otherwise you'd have said 'a' doc)
and this is a closed normal

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you are town then maybe go away and think about why that’s happening as a whole

[skitter30]

oh hey.

im the doc

gg guys

That really doesn’t read frustrated to you?

no

[skitter30]

menalque, does scum!you believe in bussing?

[skitter30]

yup

hey skitter remember open 755 and how sky acted. the same as here

a) in what sense?
b) ... you were in that game?

[skitter30]

I think you two are arguing over semantics and I don't think it's going to be productive.

^^^^ town

[Menalque]

menalque, does scum!you believe in bussing?

Idk, I haven’t rolled scum yet and the last time I played mafia was like 3-4 years ago so I can’t remeber if I rolled scum there either.

I think I would be open to bussing as scum on occasion because if I didn’t it would limit my range?

[skitter30]

hm

UNVOTE:

I need to reread

I also want to know what skitter thinks of all this

i was at work, sorry

luv is kinda townie i think

[skitter30]

menalque, does scum!you believe in bussing?

Idk, I haven’t rolled scum yet and the last time I played mafia was like 3-4 years ago so I can’t remeber if I rolled scum there either.

I think I would be open to bussing as scum on occasion because if I didn’t it would limit my range?

rn you kinda read like ur trying to protect partner!pisskop from getting lynched

[skitter30]

A full doctor seems powerful for a game of this size, but that's kinda WIFOM without knowing the rest of the setup

anyone here have mod meta on bnl?

[Robbnva]

it's actually a fairly well documented tell in the newbie queue that seems to be pretty accurate; someone (tttt) tracked this over all newbie games for several months and this is what he found; here's a link if you're intersted:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=79490

No. Don’t be part of the problem. Let’s stop spreading made up tells.

[Menalque]

Yeah I realised there was a risk of that

It’s just that I genuinely believe the doc claim so that made me look elsewhere

[skitter30]

gut.

meta from an alt of mine and gut. skitter's a good scum player, and i dont see her misreading sky like she did.

what meta? c9++?

oh, i looked at the pl, i have a guess now; don't think i would have ever guessed it the other way

i'm not sure rn which game ur playing more similarly to, i need to mull it over for a bit

my multiball range is p different than my singleball range btw

why do u think it's unlikely for me to misread sky?

[skitter30]

it's actually a fairly well documented tell in the newbie queue that seems to be pretty accurate; someone (tttt) tracked this over all newbie games for several months and this is what he found; here's a link if you're intersted:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=79490

No. Don’t be part of the problem. Let’s stop spreading made up tells.

disagree that it's made-up

[skitter30]

i'm trying to decide how likely it is that town!pisskop gets nk'd here
i don't think it's super likely tbh

pisskop did u answer whether or not ur gated?

[skitter30]

oh that's a good point actually, lol

point still stands about the fact it would have been better for town

if you'd jumped on and not debated the merits of voting/not voting sky

ehhhhhhhh i don't like this i think

[skitter30]

some measure of town: dann, luv, cinn, exi, maaaaybe robbnva

leftovers: pisskop, menalque hitei

VOTE: menalque

townreads i'm least certain on are cinn and robb i think

[Menalque]

Why are you TRing luv?

[Robbnva]

it's actually a fairly well documented tell in the newbie queue that seems to be pretty accurate; someone (tttt) tracked this over all newbie games for several months and this is what he found; here's a link if you're intersted:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=79490

No. Don’t be part of the problem. Let’s stop spreading made up tells.

disagree that it's made-up

It is because that’s something that comes down to personality. Some people are just friendlier than others. I enter almost every game with some sort of greeting and its regardless of my alignment.

I seriously don’t think scum sits there and goes “hmm what strategy should I use to enter the game... I know I’ll
Say hello to everyone”

It’s arbitrary data. You would need to know the personality of every person ever to do it. You’d also need to know if it’s their first ever game on site. Newbies in general may not know about rvs.

There was some body pushing data a few years ago that says the first (can’t remember the number) of people to vote in rvs, at least 2 will be scum. Then somebody with a brain debunked it quite easily.

People are trying to be lazy by creating tells instead of relying on good old fashioned scumtells. Now you have idiots out there who will adamantly serious vote somebody just for saying hello.

It’s lazy play.

[skitter30]

Why are you TRing luv?

a) he's visibly trying to sort people; i can see what he's thinking and how his thought process has evolved; he's not just declaring reads and sticking with them for long-ish periods of time
b) not townreading me/trying to buddy me/trying to appease me
c) his line of questining to you regarding the cop/doc/neighborizer thing
d) probably some other stuff that i'm not thinking of right at this moment that i'll remember in like 5 min

[Menalque]

clarity, could we get an up-to-date VC pls?

[Robbnva]

And sorry. This isn’t the place to argue mafia theory. I’ll drop it.

[skitter30]

ya tha'ts why i didn't respond

[Menalque]

Why are you TRing luv?

a) he's visibly trying to sort people; i can see what he's thinking and how his thought process has evolved; he's not just declaring reads and sticking with them for long-ish periods of time
b) not townreading me/trying to buddy me/trying to appease me
c) his line of questining to you regarding the cop/doc/neighborizer thing
d) probably some other stuff that i'm not thinking of right at this moment that i'll remember in like 5 min

Regarding (a) — where? I just looked at his ISO again. As far as I can see it’s non-commital, non-commital, non-commital, gets pushed so TRs exi and scumleans me

Sticks to those, then rapidly gets to the point of being willing to hammer pk

Then sticks more to the TR on exi and upgrades me from a scumlean to a scumread

I don’t see his thought process evolving, and I don’t see him not declaring reads and sticking to them for long periods of time