I was even still thinking you had an above average chance of flipping town and basically was inviting people to towntell and you come out with this complete bullshit reaction. I'm sorry when does town ever look at someone saying "please meta case this slot for town" and accuse the person doing so of being scum? If you were at all confident in people's meta reads of you then you could just simply explain how to meta read you. Instead you're acting like I declared a crusade or somethingIn post 2146, Nero Cain wrote:you couldn't even carry my golf bag
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yeah but you LOST the game because he is impossible to work with.In post 2148, nomnomnom wrote:That's a gross assessment given that the last time I played with Nero he was the person that managed to make himself known as the obvtown slot on a LYLO and allowed me to basically solve early on.
If it wasn't for a personal grudge from another person we would have won that game.
Nero is good in those spots. His alignment will be clear as day eventually.
I really dislike that you've been going for "the least risky slots" because that was your rationale to go for EvilDeanius too in the first place.
notice the part where you LOST the game
and yeah, on day 1 I very often go for "least risky slots" because it's day 1. if I think the gamestate will be more easily readable with a slot that I don't think can be solved for town then I will go for that slot if I don't have any strong scumreads. and at this point Nero isn't really "null" because his reaction to my push was completely awful
no one is particularly interested in you even though your white knighting him here is again pinging me. you're basically arguing that his alignment should be ignored because you think that he can be useful later, while critiquing me for thinking he's not being useful right now. But you are not arguing for him being town which means you are not evaluating him based on alignment, but choosing to then take pot shots at me for thinking he has a decent chance of being scum and not being useful as town. Who is being less objective in that scenario?
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I have no fucking clue what you on about? You said no one has presented a town case, I said that's not true and now you are claiming that I'm trying to shut down meta cases or some weird thing.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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that's really not true. Everyone else was fine but him. Me, Nom and army worked well.In post 2152, Detective Pikachu wrote:because he is impossible to work with.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Why don't you scum case me?In post 2152, Detective Pikachu wrote:You want him to be town? towncase him.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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These aren't even contradictions and I think you are making a mountain out of a NAI mole hill to use as justification for why I'm a good vote.In post 2147, Detective Pikachu wrote:What I'm wondering is why do you think my trying to actually sort out those sorts of contradictions is the scummy position?
personally, I think I'm an easy read. And thereAREppl that I think that are really good at reading me (Nancy, Mastina etc.)
????In post 2147, Detective Pikachu wrote:why do YOU not want this sorted out?
I'm not stopping anyone.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I have no fucking clue what you on about? You said no one has presented a town case, I said that's not true and now you are claiming that I'm trying to shut down meta cases or some weird thing.
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No one argued for you being locktown. I wasn't looking for half-assed quasi-null/leanscum reads. NONE of those things you linked are TOWNCASES
How can you be so dense you don't understand what a towncase is? How is this an actual thought process you are having right now?
I want someone to come in and say you are LOCK TOWN based on META because that is exactly what you say you should be based on your own META.
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all I did was say that ppl had been towncasing me.In post 2152, Detective Pikachu wrote:his reaction to my push was completely awfulOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Nancy who townread you in BTE when you were scum?In post 2156, Nero Cain wrote:personally, I think I'm an easy read. And there ARE ppl that I think that are really good at reading me (Nancy, Mastina etc.)
That Nancy, right?
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He's not going to be much useful day 1, at least not as useful as he is later down the game because he tends to get in odd situations. Last game it was a lengthy 1v1 for the record. He makes some odd moves early on, and odd statements, that can be seen as scummy, but in my experience he's not a person you can catch with a reaction test, or a 1v1, or a specific argument. Rather, when you have the full book, it's easy to see what alignment he is. Only one game, but I am convinced of that. He never deepwolfs the game, which was someone's concern I believe?
You can go and read the game. He just has a facade and a demeanor that's a bit hard to see through and something that annoys people greatly, but it's something I see through easily and I don't really get swayed by this kind of behavior. But some people do. And that's why we lost that game. Nothing to do with his actual content or his interactions, someone just constructed a grudge from an early 1v1 and that was it.
I'm not going to towncase him. He's a big boy. He doesn't need me. All I'm saying is that NC is a bad day 1 lynch. So are people like URAP. These two guys will have their alignment in the open clear as day soon.- Detective Pikachu
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And then you poisoned the well and omgus'd me when I was barely even scumreading you. How exactly is that NOT interfering with my push to get people to take stances on your alignment?In post 2158, Nero Cain wrote:all I did was say that ppl had been towncasing me.- Detective Pikachu
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If this is your thought process about active players why exactly were you so opposed to lynching a slot like EvilDeanius? You seemed really bothered by me pushing there but effectively you are right now arguing that inactive slots should be lynched day 1 over active slots because active slots will be readable in time. So why exactly were you opposed to ED at that time?In post 2160, nomnomnom wrote:I'm not going to towncase him. He's a big boy. He doesn't need me. All I'm saying is that NC is a bad day 1 lynch. So are people like URAP. These two guys will have their alignment in the open clear as day soon.- Nero Cain
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ok, you're right. You weren't OMGUS scum reading me but you are just scum that opportunistically bandwagoned.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Lynching a slot with 8 posts is insanity. That's why.In post 2162, Detective Pikachu wrote:
If this is your thought process about active players why exactly were you so opposed to lynching a slot like EvilDeanius? You seemed really bothered by me pushing there but effectively you are right now arguing that inactive slots should be lynched day 1 over active slots because active slots will be readable in time. So why exactly were you opposed to ED at that time?In post 2160, nomnomnom wrote:I'm not going to towncase him. He's a big boy. He doesn't need me. All I'm saying is that NC is a bad day 1 lynch. So are people like URAP. These two guys will have their alignment in the open clear as day soon.
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but according to you I apparently can't have opinions otherwise it's interfering.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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you do realize that two slots are going to be against lynching that just by the nature of her being scum. I asked you b4 but why is it such a big deal that we lynch her today?In post 2164, nomnomnom wrote:you guys all bailed out even though the claim was completely insane and she is clearly scum lolOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I think I've been an open book and what ppl don't know or understand they can just ask me.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Because she's scum?In post 2167, Nero Cain wrote:
you do realize that two slots are going to be against lynching that just by the nature of her being scum. I asked you b4 but why is it such a big deal that we lynch her today?In post 2164, nomnomnom wrote:you guys all bailed out even though the claim was completely insane and she is clearly scum lol
Because she obviously has a very controlling nature and that letting a slot do this is straight up bad, even in the rare chance she's town?
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I know but she's a claimed cop and folks are going to be instantly against that.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I'm also a Flubb CW so I'm kinda thinking that might be scum too.
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