Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

[chennisden]

So I think exilon chen dann is a reliable towncore for now.

[chennisden]

Menelaus when you're on I'm gonna want to sort you

[chennisden]

Menelaus if you are scum your scumgame is very good

It's unfortunate that pisskop's claim is very likely and that paints you as the more likely scum over luv

[chennisden]

Skitter pisskop are my towncore candidates

[skitter30]

I'm kinda rethinking the menalque read

[chennisden]

I SR menelaus but need to rehash with some live interactions

[chennisden]

Just for postgame lols

cinnamon/menelaus

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think Mena doesn't realistically just believe the claim unless he has sone sort of extra information

Either some PR or as scum

For

reasons

I think the latter is more likely than the former

+1

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Chen, what’s your read on the Robb slot? Noticed you didn’t mention.

[Menalque]

Jesus, chen

I just woke up a few minutes ago, I’ll respond after breakfast


Also, exi I saw your q’s too, I’ll get to them as well

[Menalque]

Before anything tho: pls stop calling me menelaus

[Cinnamon]

Robb's play was pretty emotionally charged and it gave off town vibes in a way that I think would be very hard to fake. His disappointment in skitter and desire to have his logic used to gamesolve, regardless of whether that's actually correct or not, is very townie.

(...)
Rob is reading as an emotionally-charged townie.

I love it when people use the same words I do

On other topics;

VOTE: Menalque
I'm scumreading Menalque here. Compared to my previous experience with him, his thought process is much less cohesive and I find myself a bit confused by his play. I find 560 to be an example of that.

As a hot take, I think there's exactly one scum in {Menalque, skitter}

I really dislike this here.
1) how does being less cohesive = scummy?
2) The argument that it is less cohesive is based on 1 previous game meta (which is weak imo), and the example is post 560, which is also not very good?

Considering also that is used to jump on a fun bandwagon and avoids commenting on Pisskop while still placing him near the bottom of the readlist all while avoiding voicing any opinion towards him buddying Cinn.... Seems like a setup.

Cinn, how is Menalque scummier than Pisskop?
What do you have to say re: our feelings that he's pocketing you?

A setup for what exactly?
1) His thought process is less fluid and I have trouble seeing where he is coming from. His posts seem less likely to come from a town mindset because of that.
2) There's a little part of meta in that read but it's also I just see his actions as scummy independently. To point to another example, 586 is just a weird thought to have as town.

[Cinnamon]

I don't like pisskop but I also don't think he's the lynch for today, which is why I turned my attention elsewhere.

[Menalque]

Wait, cinn, talk me through what’s weird about 586? I’m aware that my play here can be seen as scummy, and I think it would be abnormal to not see it as such — unless you’re reading the same person as scum that I consider to be scum, in which case I think my play makes sense from a town perspective

[Cinnamon]

My point wasn't to say that you're scummy for doing so but to say that posts that avoid taking stances at this point are not a good reason to scumread somebody.

no worries.

I don't know much about his playstyle, but this kinda pinged me that he may be trying to pocket me more than anything else he said. I'm not sure why, it seemed kinda unnatural?. Either way he's trying to get me on his side so there's a very real chance it is pocketing.

[Cinnamon]

Wait, cinn, talk me through what’s weird about 586? I’m aware that my play here can be seen as scummy, and I think it would be abnormal to not see it as such — unless you’re reading the same person as scum that I consider to be scum, in which case I think my play makes sense from a town perspective

I find it a bit weird that you embrace this world where you're scum. I think as town you would do more to push your own reads here rather than agreeing with people who scumread you.

[Menalque]

I mean, you saw 450 right? Is that not pushing my own reads?

Also, your logic is that it’s somehow more town to completely refuse to acknowledge that anything I’ve done can be seen as scummy?

[Cinnamon]

I mean, you saw 450 right? Is that not pushing my own reads?

Also, your logic is that it’s somehow more town to completely refuse to acknowledge that anything I’ve done can be seen as scummy?

No, but from your point of view both of the things said (LUV town, you scum) are likely to be wrong. I think town Menalque does more there to show why the logic used against you is wrong.

[Cinnamon]

Admittedly the fact that you've engaged me a number of times on this means this is less scum indicative

[skitter30]

UNVOTE:
i'm not really feeling this anymore, i think

[skitter30]

cinn, do you like town or scum more?
which do you think you're better at? which do you prefer playing?

remind me how much experience you have?

[Cinnamon]

I like town more, but I'm better as scum. I'm decent at reading people but I'm bad at getting people to listen to my reads.

I have a ton of IRL experience but here I only have a few marathons and a newbie completed.

[skitter30]

ok
you have a really like ... naturally townie sounding tone, and that's kinda what i was reading you off of
but i don't know if you'd sound like that from both alignments

i don't have much other reason to townread you rn really

[Cinnamon]

skitter what's your opinion on chen/chen's supposed towncore?

[skitter30]

don't want chenn in it yet; don't think he's done much ai/that i can read and hitei didn't do anything

pisskop not really either; i don't townread him, at bets i dont' want to lynch him because i think i'd feel dumb lynching a real doc

you?