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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:31 am

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VOTE COUNT 1.35
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Vorkuta, Dunnstral, u r a person 2, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Cinnamon
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:33 am

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DP why don't you want a flubber lynch?
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:41 am

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I'm thinking about it

Reread that one thing with nom earlier and I guess it might not be enough

Mostly annoyed that salad/vork/salad are basically relaxing on the wagon while there's a bunch of noise around your slot. I feel like scum like where the attention is right now. If flubber is a bus then I think they're feeling good about it. Doesn't mean he's town tho

Not sure why vork is locktown for you tbh

Like I could hammer and if it flips red evaluate from there but flubber basically made one townie ish post but at this point there's minor reasons to consider a townread on almost every slot. I am pretty ready for the day to end but would much prefer a red flip.
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:48 am

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I don't remember why you were scum reading vork but I remember thinking that it fit into my town read of him just fine

I can go back and look and we can dig into that again if you want

I'm not even sure if scum is busing flubber hard right now tho mate. I'm living in a world where there is likely (possibly? not sure where i'd put the exact percent) 0-1 scum on flubber
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:06 am

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That's really optimistic lol

I feel like off gamestate there's probably one scum in vork/dunn/salad even if I'm not sure who is actually individually scummy in that group

like I'm just kinda looking at the wagon and going "dunn was tunneling vork all day and now they are next to each other on the wagon" ... like I don't know it means anything but it kinda is just a "huh so that happened" kinda feeling for me.

I'm not actively scumreading vork so much as feeling like I don't know why he's being townread -- I know you said you liked his early RVS interactions but I don't really know why they're outside his scumrange? I basically just feel like I can think of more reasons to townread a lot of people, including like, Flubber lol. I also feel like flubber/nom felt kinda good to me whereas vork/nom felt kinda gross

there is a problem tho that I basically can't be online tomorrow so I probably should just intent so this day ends without skitter pulling a cfd on you or something. I'm not lockscum on flubber but I'm not strongly opposed to him being a poe lynch and I'm really opposed to you going today so *shrug*
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:16 am

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can you show me this town flubber post please. I can't remember if you've pointed it out but I wanna look at it again
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:26 am

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First this:
In post 848, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 575, nomnomnom wrote:
Vorkuta (4):
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I also might add that it adds up to NC's earlier argument for a teacher scumread that his vote served no true purpose and was a placeholder so yeah, this is definitely the kind of thing that catches my attention. Skitter tends to be highly respected in these games and I think it could play a huge psychological factor in people's decision making here.
Hmmmm.

You seem to acknowledge to a similar degree what I was getting at, but still come to a wildly different conclusion. I'd love to talk about this but honestly I don't wven know what to ask
Then, basically just page 35:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=850

Like flubber/nom is pretty clearly not s/s at the very least, but beyond that flubber feels slightly different than his scum games. Not wildly outside and not enough that I wouldn't hammer him but enough that I feel some pause here.
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:36 am

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but yeah he doesn't really have a lot of town posts in the last 60 pages

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man reading Nero on page 35 makes me cringe
In post 866, Nero Cain wrote:this is kinda a delayed OMGUS vote but its kinda off b/c it seems like a pressure vote? Like Nom thought urap was scum for awhile and then started town reading him.
he has been pushing "delayed omgus" as explanations for half his scumreads this game, what the hell? like "omgus" is practically nai in the first place, and "delayed omgus" is moon logic BS if I ever saw it. Feels more like scum goading on 1v1s than an actual thought process town would have
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:52 am

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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:54 am

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Urap i dont think anything you brought out in flubber's play on the previous page is scummy
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:56 am

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Like even the psuedo-cop thing i dont think comes from scum
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:57 am

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Nero is still a bad vote/lynch.
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:58 am

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In post 2303, u r a person 2 wrote:I'm not even sure if scum is busing flubber hard right now tho mate. I'm living in a world where there is likely (possibly? not sure where i'd put the exact percent) 0-1 scum on flubber
Like why do u think this? I think there's at least one, if not more, on him rn
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:58 am

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Well i dont like thr other options so ....

I'm also baffled by the townreads on salad
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:02 pm

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In post 2306, Detective Pikachu wrote:Then, basically just page 35:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79944&start=850

Like flubber/nom is pretty clearly not s/s at the very least, but beyond that flubber feels slightly different than his scum games. Not wildly outside and not enough that I wouldn't hammer him but enough that I feel some pause here.
I don't see what you're town reading in . Why is it not just a way of avoiding a conversation about their different conclusions?

And on page 35 he discredits a number of reads, which I think is scum-indicative

There was like one really good question from flubber on that page but I really don't think you've found anything town-indicative here mate
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:02 pm

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In post 2306, Detective Pikachu wrote:Then, basically just page 35:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79944&start=850

Like flubber/nom is pretty clearly not s/s at the very least, but beyond that flubber feels slightly different than his scum games. Not wildly outside and not enough that I wouldn't hammer him but enough that I feel some pause here.
I don't see what you're town reading in . Why is it not just a way of avoiding a conversation about their different conclusions?

And on page 35 he discredits a number of reads, which I think is scum-indicative

There was like one really good question from flubber on that page but I really don't think you've found anything town-indicative here mate
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:03 pm

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salad could plausibly flip scum, reading newbies is hard. but his desire to form consensus and move on with the game seems +townie to me. I wouldn't like, bet money on him being town, but I don't really see why he's scum?
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:04 pm

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In post 2309, skitter30 wrote:Urap i dont think anything you brought out in flubber's play on the previous page is scummy
In post 2310, skitter30 wrote:Like even the psuedo-cop thing i dont think comes from scum
Can you help me understand why its more likely to come from town than scum?
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:04 pm

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I'm kinda getting the vibe that he may be relying on the newbie card to skate by
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 2317, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 2309, skitter30 wrote:Urap i dont think anything you brought out in flubber's play on the previous page is scummy
In post 2310, skitter30 wrote:Like even the psuedo-cop thing i dont think comes from scum
Can you help me understand why its more likely to come from town than scum?
.... cuz scun doesnt fake-claim cop that way because they're exasperated and then immediately retract it (esp after someone actually bought it!)
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 2312, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2303, u r a person 2 wrote:I'm not even sure if scum is busing flubber hard right now tho mate. I'm living in a world where there is likely (possibly? not sure where i'd put the exact percent) 0-1 scum on flubber
Like why do u think this? I think there's at least one, if not more, on him rn
because of what reads I have on them and a less-than-back-of-the-napkin kind of guess at the probability of more than one being scum given my reads

it wasn't anything complicated
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:07 pm

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My point is that i scumread like half the wagon
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:07 pm

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Like on some level i'm confused that we seem to be playing like two different games ...
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:09 pm

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In post 2319, skitter30 wrote:.... cuz scun doesnt fake-claim cop that way because they're exasperated and then immediately retract it (esp after someone actually bought it!)
oh I thought you were calling the mod would have punished shoshin thing a psuedo-cop check. Why isn't that vote scummy?

I don't see why that's out of an average scum range. like at all. Especially the part in parentheses. like of course scum would retract it there if they weren't planning on actually making the claim

the only question is if scum would make the joke and like, why not?
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:09 pm

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Flubber, I want your thoughts on Nero.
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