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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:37 pm

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In post 918, Cinnamon wrote:If skitter and me is the scum team can I get one of those best scum team things you have skitter?
Also it says team but it's really a solo play award :)

Anyways i'm heading to bed but dann i'd like you to:
A) explain why you're scumreading me
B) explain why me/cinn are svs
C) explain why, say, exilon/cinn is not svs (ie why specifically do u think i'm scum!cinn's partner, and not anyone else)
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:38 pm

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I'm currently have a tinfoil hat theory that the scum team is something like Robb's slot/LUV and this whole conversation is just TvT where I don't understand anything that's going on
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:38 pm

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In post 923, Cinnamon wrote:
In post 922, chennisden wrote:
In post 920, Cinnamon wrote:
In post 917, chennisden wrote:
In post 915, Dannflor wrote:
In post 912, chennisden wrote:
In post 906, Dannflor wrote:ok I'll cut to the chase

I think this is scum theatre between skitter and cinnamon right now
no reason not to vote cinnamon then
but I'm scum reading skitter more individually
if cinnamon flips green we can evaluate skitter d2
why can't you evaluate now? what would you do if I was an IC here?
i would still call you out on your shit
If you're town your play has been seriously terrible. At least try to consider a world where I'm town because that's the world we're in.
ive been trying

and it requires a lot of mental gymnastics

every post im trying to find a reason to see it as town and well i really CAN'T

im not going to call you trash at town because you aren't town :]
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:38 pm

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Chenn, why am i town? Ngl i'm a little surprised that you arent more wary after that open
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:39 pm

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In post 925, skitter30 wrote:
In post 918, Cinnamon wrote:If skitter and me is the scum team can I get one of those best scum team things you have skitter?
Also it says team but it's really a solo play award :)

Anyways i'm heading to bed but dann i'd like you to:
A) explain why you're scumreading me
B) explain why me/cinn are svs
C) explain why, say, exilon/cinn is not svs (ie why specifically do u think i'm scum!cinn's partner, and not anyone else)
That's just perfect, after I get you lynched today I'll solo carry scum to endgame :)
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:39 pm

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In post 517, skitter30 wrote:some measure of town: dann, luv, cinn, exi, maaaaybe robbnva

leftovers: pisskop, menalque hitei

VOTE: menalque

townreads i'm least certain on are cinn and robb i think
In post 645, skitter30 wrote:cinn, do you like town or scum more?
which do you think you're better at? which do you prefer playing?

remind me how much experience you have?
In post 647, skitter30 wrote:ok
you have a really like ... naturally townie sounding tone, and that's kinda what i was reading you off of
but i don't know if you'd sound like that from both alignments

i don't have much other reason to townread you rn really
In post 762, skitter30 wrote:
In post 665, Cinnamon wrote:I'm starting to move towards the idea of one of Exilon/chennis being mafia, both of them are scumreading me but have gone about doing so in weird ways. I think this is a concerted effort to push towards a mislynch on a player they view as an easy target.
i'm not really townreading cinn anymore
Basically, your progression on cinnamon and questioning of him doesn't feel like genuine sorting, it feels like interactions for the sake of interactions and a way for you to move from a town read to a scum read when Cinnamon started low key freaking out under pressure from chennis

I think this is you hedging on your caught team mate and trying to make your transition to a vote look natural, while still leaving the door open for diverting the lynch:
In post 790, skitter30 wrote:yeah basically as i wrote that i was thinking either:

a) you're town on a completely different wavelength than everyone else
b) you're scum

i'm still kinda working it out/mulling it over
I also don't like this kind of hedging on pisskop:
In post 538, skitter30 wrote:
In post 531, Cinnamon wrote:
In post 515, skitter30 wrote:i'm trying to decide how likely it is that town!pisskop gets nk'd here
i don't think it's super likely tbh

pisskop did u answer whether or not ur gated?
Skitter was your reasoning behind this post?
a) trying to decide how likely it is that pisskop will just die at some point overnight; i'd feel kinda dumb actually lynching a real doc but i don't want this to go unresolved till lylo
b) an ungated doc feels kinda strong for a game this size, it makes me feel like it's a fake-claim

the two points weren't necessarily related to each other
I feel like town!you is more decisive than this and either believes the claim or doesn't - maybe I'm wrong there, but overall you've been very hedgy and more go-with-the-flow than I would expect
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:41 pm

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Dann the nice shiny banner i have is because i'm really, really good at bussing and distancing - this isnt a conversation we'd be having if i were partners with cinn

Going to bed but i'll answet more thoroughly in the morning
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:41 pm

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I agree with dan here that skitter's read on me did not feel like genuine sorting. It's why I started looking for other weird things in her play and I pickup on the fact that skitter pushing me would effectively prevent chennis from doing anything productive today assuming skitter maf/chennis town
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:41 pm

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In post 926, Cinnamon wrote:I'm currently have a tinfoil hat theory that the scum team is something like Robb's slot/LUV and this whole conversation is just TvT where I don't understand anything that's going on
if you flip green this won't be very tinfoil.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:42 pm

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i don't think scum skitter will bus like this
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:42 pm

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Also where does ur impression of my towngame come from?

Ok really g'night now
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:42 pm

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In post 931, skitter30 wrote:Dann the nice shiny banner i have is because i'm really, really good at bussing and distancing - this isnt a conversation we'd be having if i were partners with cinn
That feels like a weird way to respond to my read, but ok
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:43 pm

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In post 935, skitter30 wrote:Also where does ur impression of my towngame come from?

Ok really g'night now
a few games I've read with you in them and your general reputation

I might have built up a false image of you in my head though

Goodnight!
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:43 pm

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Okay hold up seriously how is a skitter/me team being considered here the interactions we've had all game are just not things a scum team have
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:43 pm

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Night! I'm probably off as well :)
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:44 pm

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i feel like cinnamon tried to discredit me to some extent when i pushed him and now that he's realized it's not working, he's vaguely trying to appeal to the towncore by saying stuff like "this is probably TvT lol wouldn't that be funny" while leaving his discrediting options open
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:45 pm

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I mean, in a game of this size, if we're saying Cinnamon is scum

I think if he senses he might be lynched, he's gonna want to make his partner look as good as possible as he goes down, which basically just leaves [chennis, skitter, exilon]

and I think skitter's interactions here look the worst

I could be getting in too deep on the pre flip associatives though
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 938, Cinnamon wrote:Okay hold up seriously how is a skitter/me team being considered here the interactions we've had all game are just not things a scum team have
This is the first townie thing you've said in a long time
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 938, Cinnamon wrote:Okay hold up seriously how is a skitter/me team being considered here the interactions we've had all game are just not things a scum team have
I'm getting told your distancing is too good and then also that it would be better if you were S/S

so I'm not really sure I buy those kinds of arguments
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 941, Dannflor wrote:I mean, in a game of this size, if we're saying Cinnamon is scum

I think if he senses he might be lynched, he's gonna want to make his partner look as good as possible as he goes down, which basically just leaves [chennis, skitter, exilon]

and I think skitter's interactions here look the worst

I could be getting in too deep on the pre flip associatives though
exilon pushed him WAY too early to be scum
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 933, chennisden wrote:
In post 926, Cinnamon wrote:I'm currently have a tinfoil hat theory that the scum team is something like Robb's slot/LUV and this whole conversation is just TvT where I don't understand anything that's going on
if you flip green this won't be very tinfoil.
last thing though - you said you were looking for anything townie from me at all. Is making a theory, that FYPOV is quite possible in the event that I'm town, not trying to gamesolve?
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:46 pm

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as scum i would just make offhand comments about how cinnamon is scum and not really push that direction
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:48 pm

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In post 945, Cinnamon wrote:
In post 933, chennisden wrote:
In post 926, Cinnamon wrote:I'm currently have a tinfoil hat theory that the scum team is something like Robb's slot/LUV and this whole conversation is just TvT where I don't understand anything that's going on
if you flip green this won't be very tinfoil.
last thing though - you said you were looking for anything townie from me at all. Is making a theory, that FYPOV is quite possible in the event that I'm town, not trying to gamesolve?
i see more scum than town motivation

i do agree that a cinnamon/skitter team isn't something i'd hedge my bets on

but this is really easy; d2 i promise you skitter will be sorted beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:49 pm

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In post 947, chennisden wrote:d2 i promise you skitter will be sorted beyond a reasonable doubt.
Why do you say this
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:04 pm

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Cinnamon, do you have any completed scum games?
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