Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

[skitter30]

i mean, really?

you pretty clearly did not really scumread me there

[chennisden]

Chen, what are your 'raisins' for believing my claim? Thats a hard defense youve picked up and dropped and repeated.

Not gonna dilly dally anymore.

I am a PR

[chennisden]

The turnaround is because you pushed the "obv" pr

My iso might have some doubting of you from earlier and I'll look

Might have some

doubting

[chennisden]

Like really skitter

Macho alone is not a pr

[skitter30]

being informed isn't something that i woudlnt' lynch day1 ... it's not in the same league as a doc, not even remotely

like i thought you were informed; informed isn't a role that would inherently make me not lynch someone day1, so i pushed it
i don't understand the problem you're having

like are you really trying to say that it's problematic to push informed or macho or something similar day1 ?

I NEVER claimed only macho.

i didn't say you did, i'm explaining what it looked liek from my pov - obviously i don't know what role you are, so i was working with what i had

from *my* pov you were p obviously informed so that's what i was assessing things on. from that pov how is my push scummy ...

calling me scummy for pushing a pr that i didn't know existed is ridiculous

pedit and yeah i thought that 'pr' meant informed

[skitter30]

Like really skitter

Macho alone is not a pr

that's a colloquial semantic difference ffs

people call miller a pr too

[chennisden]

I feel like you're twisting things to fit an agenda, no?

I feel like cinnamon was right. He's competent and I traditionally am not esp with replace ins

Also dann has given the same thoughts.

[skitter30]

like is the basis of your read literally that i pushed a pr claim ...

[chennisden]

Like really skitter

Macho alone is not a pr

that's a colloquial semantic difference ffs

people call miller a pr too

If I was lone macho I'd be like "hey guys I'm macho" with no mention of a pr

[skitter30]

I feel like you're twisting things to fit an agenda, no?

I feel like cinnamon was right. He's competent and I traditionally am not esp with replace ins

Also dann has given the same thoughts.

uh, no, show me exactly what where i'm doing that. like pull up a quote and show me where i'm twisting things or misrepping you

[chennisden]

like is the basis of your read literally that i pushed a pr claim ...

People have been giving you some doubt early on giving me some more confidence.

Your response to my push is also something that feels bad

[skitter30]

Like really skitter

Macho alone is not a pr

that's a colloquial semantic difference ffs

people call miller a pr too

If I was lone macho I'd be like "hey guys I'm macho" with no mention of a pr

for like the sixth time i thought when you were saying 'i'm a pr' you were saying that you were informed

and in the context of telling people not to push pisskop, the 'i'm a pr' is p obviously that you have some sort of information that would lead you to believe a doc claim is real (ie being macho in this case) - like why would i think a pr claim meant something else in that context

[chennisden]

i mean, really?

you pretty clearly did not really scumread me there

Strawman. I told you that I was looking for places where I might have expressed some level of doubt, not previous scumreads.

[skitter30]

like is the basis of your read literally that i pushed a pr claim ...

People have been giving you some doubt early on giving me some more confidence.

Your response to my push is also something that feels bad

this is awful, no offense

this boils down to:

a) you don't like that i pushed a pr claim (that in context looked like bieng informed that a doc exists - and this is bad to push because ...)

b) some other people doubted me so you should too (even though you defended me against them before!)

c) my push feels bad and i'm allegedly misrepping you and twisting things but you can't or won't show me where

d) you're pushing me for doing things you yourself did

[skitter30]

Everyone I've interacted with has been somewhat townie from my pov but you

I was gonna sort you tomorrow but we don't have the time or the means

Your 180 on me also can have the same said for it

i mean to me this means that you don't think i've been playing townie - in the context of the posts you pulled out you were largely saying you townread me - you pulled out 2 posts that expressed doubt amongst 15 others that showed you were townie

if you think my play has been scummy recently don't pull out posts to show that you doubted a townread on me from 700 posts ago

[chennisden]

IF YOU ARE A POWER ROLE -- ANY POWER ROLE -- DO NOT COUNTERCLAIM. WAGON PISSKOP.

Does this not heavily imply that another pr existing is not possible? Your push implies that you haven't been actually reading and that's something scum can afford to do

[skitter30]

like everything you're saying is baseless accusations and conclusions and you don't have any logic to actually back them up

like you're just respondign in the immediate to whatever i say but none of it holistically makes sense with each other

[chennisden]

Skitter30 a majority of your questions can be answered in a 30 second iso skim

[skitter30]

IF YOU ARE A POWER ROLE -- ANY POWER ROLE -- DO NOT COUNTERCLAIM. WAGON PISSKOP.

Does this not heavily imply that another pr existing is not possible? Your push implies that you haven't been actually reading and that's something scum can afford to do

why the fuck based off of that would i assume that another strong pr was you

[skitter30]

Skitter30 a majority of your questions can be answered in a 30 second iso skim

so answer them

[chennisden]

I have to go so my last comment will be that your basis for pushing me was fundamentally flawed and if you actually wanted to sort me you should've looked deeper at my crumbs

And if you're town please admit this so we can work together

[chennisden]

Skitter30 a majority of your questions can be answered in a 30 second iso skim

so answer them

I have.

[skitter30]

Skitter30 a majority of your questions can be answered in a 30 second iso skim

so answer them

I have.

no, you really really really haven't

i'm going to keep bringing up that you're accusing me of misrepping you and twisting your words but can't show me where

[chennisden]

IF YOU ARE A POWER ROLE -- ANY POWER ROLE -- DO NOT COUNTERCLAIM. WAGON PISSKOP.

Does this not heavily imply that another pr existing is not possible? Your push implies that you haven't been actually reading and that's something scum can afford to do

why the fuck based off of that would i assume that another strong pr was you

Because 2 PRs is normal and 3 is not

I'm asking you to see NOW that your basis for scumread is terrible. Would've been better before but you know what they say. The second best time is now

[chennisden]

The turnaround is because you pushed the "obv" pr

My iso might have some doubting of you from earlier and I'll look

Might have some

doubting