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[Nero Cain]

ok, well I was gonna say if you think BUJ is town and you trust his reads...but you are going with the "reads aren't great" so meh

[nomnomnom]

@skitter you know, I just think this is what's happening:

either you're scum

either the scums are just parroting what you're saying because it's convenient, and that's what I need to analyze right now

in both cases it's really bad and you REALLY should be reconsidering your position on a few things. This is just straight up bad.

Explain where scum are parroting what i'm saying - if what i said is correct why us this a bad thing?

Why should i reconsider my position on anything ... if i've been proven right multple times over

I nominally have work so later

The part where everyone stops voting shoshin to push votes on Flubb, Nero and URAP. We ended with Flubb/Nero as lynchpool and I am like 80% sure Nero is town here, so as I said day 1, what you said and what you advocated for not only made us have a town lynchpool, but also allows scums to come up with a really good night. This is just bad for town.

I'll just be rereading your interactions with people and the way people react to you. Remember when I said you were a good tool to analyze things about how scums are afraid of you when you roll town? If you are town, what you said influenced what scums did day 1. I am 100% sure of that statement. This is how we solve this game.

So yeah, reconsider your position and understand my POV here.

[nomnomnom]

That, or you're just scum. It's as simple as that.

[Vorkuta]

Explain where scum are parroting what i'm saying

nom's scum buddies are agreeing with some of what you say duh

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: Dunn because you guys won't give me nom

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: Dunn because you guys won't give me nom

lay down the pipe

[Nero Cain]

I feel icky just asking abot it but whats even the case on nom?

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: Dunn because you guys won't give me nom

also not a good vote. pls don't betray me, comrade. What are your thoughts on teacher?

[Vorkuta]

Have you ISO'd dunn recently?

It's not a hard read

[Vorkuta]

What are your thoughts on teacher?

like ok
I know your reads are good
and teacher is scummier than urap2

but full disclosure, I *tinfoil* think he's a town!PR regardless of how much I hate that slot

[skitter30]

The part where everyone stops voting shoshin to push votes on Flubb, Nero and URAP. We ended with Flubb/Nero as lynchpool and I am like 80% sure Nero is town here, so as I said day 1, what you said and what you advocated for not only made us have a town lynchpool, but also allows scums to come up with a really good night. This is just bad for town.

Explain why nero is town here ... the fact that there was a 2person lynchpool but it ended up on someone who flipped town makes me think the other person has p high scum equity, esp when they tried/did lynch both peopke who flipped town

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

[Nero Cain]

oh spicy

[nomnomnom]

The part where everyone stops voting shoshin to push votes on Flubb, Nero and URAP. We ended with Flubb/Nero as lynchpool and I am like 80% sure Nero is town here, so as I said day 1, what you said and what you advocated for not only made us have a town lynchpool, but also allows scums to come up with a really good night. This is just bad for town.

Explain why nero is town here ... the fact that there was a 2person lynchpool but it ended up on someone who flipped town makes me think the other person has p high scum equity, esp when they tried/did lynch both peopke who flipped town

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

The nightkill.

[skitter30]

I'll just be rereading your interactions with people and the way people react to you. Remember when I said you were a good tool to analyze things about how scums are afraid of you when you roll town? If you are town, what you said influenced what scums did day 1. I am 100% sure of that statement. This is how we solve this game.

So yeah, reconsider your position and understand my POV here.

Explain why nero is town, otherwise you're hust repeating something that means nothing to me

I'm sure i influenced the game, sure. I fundementally disagree that i'm providing space for scum to hide or to push shitty mislynches

[Nero Cain]

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

prob b/c you are blind.

Also that "Nero has to be scum b/c Flubb wagon" is a false dichotomy

[skitter30]

The part where everyone stops voting shoshin to push votes on Flubb, Nero and URAP. We ended with Flubb/Nero as lynchpool and I am like 80% sure Nero is town here, so as I said day 1, what you said and what you advocated for not only made us have a town lynchpool, but also allows scums to come up with a really good night. This is just bad for town.

Explain why nero is town here ... the fact that there was a 2person lynchpool but it ended up on someone who flipped town makes me think the other person has p high scum equity, esp when they tried/did lynch both peopke who flipped town

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

The nightkill.

I dont get it

[NerfedBuJ]

Skitter, what do you think of Buj?

Probably town, if so his reads arent great

@vork i'll try but again diff timezones/work

Yes let's insult the only literally ONLY guy who townread both sides of the shoshin argument correctly.

I understand you don't have proof that nom and nero are town yet, but let's not count our 'I told you so' eggs before they hatch, eh?

I was literally the only person not getting pocketed by either side.

Call me scum for having TMI, don't say my reads are bad when I'm reading game states perfectly.

And if you noticed that I never hesitated on the shoshin townread but AT THE SAME TIME NEVER OUTRIGHT STATED THE POSSIBILITY SHE COULD BE FAKE CLAIMING COP, because that's the townie thing to do when you see someone possibly pulling off a gambit as town, not impluing that she might be lying as town.

Now that the gambit is over though, shoshin I don't think that was a good idea. I actually don't think it's a good idea EVER. Like it just depends way way too much on your reads and that any actual cop won't CC (yes CCing is stupid but people make mistakes and to pull a dangerous gambit and then blaming the people playing basic mafia foundations like lynching all liars is NOT okay, so if you had gotten a CC that would have been a disaster. If you had not died, that would have been also sort of bad).

[skitter30]

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

prob b/c you are blind.

Also that "Nero has to be scum b/c Flubb wagon" is a false dichotomy

I mean i dont know that there has to be scum in that pairing, surw, but i do know you repeatedly tried/did try to lynch town so

[NerfedBuJ]

And like I'm not even calling you scum, I'm still pretty sure you're town I just won't continue to townread you if your reads and pushes are wildly opposite of mine.

[skitter30]

Remind what your read was on flubber yesterdat?

[Vorkuta]

the fact that there was a 2person lynchpool but it ended up on someone who flipped town makes me think the other person has p high scum equity

@statistics request

How many times does this actually happen though
A failed D1 counter wagon being scum?

In my vast and huge experience, both wagons end up being town with scum pushing one, and the other "organically" forming from town, and scum can make a show with "hmmmm which one which one...., look at me scumhunt"

[Nero Cain]

I really didn't b/c the fakeclaim threw me off and it's better to lynch an unkown slot than a town slot.

no one I was pushing earlier has flipped yet.

[NerfedBuJ]

Let's not let our disagreement on who's scummier between two scum distract us. I don't really care if teacher gets lynched before urap, but I think urap is more optimal

[nomnomnom]

The part where everyone stops voting shoshin to push votes on Flubb, Nero and URAP. We ended with Flubb/Nero as lynchpool and I am like 80% sure Nero is town here, so as I said day 1, what you said and what you advocated for not only made us have a town lynchpool, but also allows scums to come up with a really good night. This is just bad for town.

Explain why nero is town here ... the fact that there was a 2person lynchpool but it ended up on someone who flipped town makes me think the other person has p high scum equity, esp when they tried/did lynch both peopke who flipped town

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

The nightkill.

I dont get it

lol of course you don't

this coupled with the "I TOLD YOU SO" attitude really reinforces everything I think about this game so far. I just think you're scum. Your posts scream "scum agenda" all over.

[Vorkuta]

Ok guys- how about we take a step back and think about the miller claim for a bit?

Assuming we forget the first few pages (where he claimed, and when he discussed), is bunny town or not?