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Post Post #5275 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:30 am

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Post Post #5276 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:31 am

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Post Post #5277 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:33 am

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as soon as i have a bad game there are a lot of people with a lot to say about how it reflects on my mafia ability but when i win games, even when i catch all scum on d1, radio silence.
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Post Post #5278 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 5277, RadiantCowbells wrote:as soon as i have a bad game there are a lot of people with a lot to say about how it reflects on my mafia ability but when i win games, even when i catch all scum on d1, radio silence.
so this is how I'm meant to do it.... Got it
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Post Post #5279 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:37 am

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Post Post #5280 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:37 am

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can you guys get more people to post

datisi will post if you ask her

i'm sure there's plenty of other people
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Post Post #5281 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:44 am

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Post Post #5282 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:48 am

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I've come to the conclusion that the path to make RC autolose is the easiest to plan out. First we lynch RC, then if he flips town we lynch me and titus.

If he flips scum we lynch Pine and PP. Easy.


Anyway, back to legitimately thinking about the game.
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Post Post #5283 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:18 am

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If Pine scum nonroleblocker:

Tomorrow we have

6 alive:
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If PP scum -> Aus dies, PP claims blocked. Scum is implied in mastina/PP/ofhrz with 2 remaining lynches. prove ofhrz by governing mastina, lynch mastina, lynch PP. PP loses.
-> Aus lives, Aus claims blocked, PP claims blocker 1v1 with 2 remaining lynches. PP loses
-> Aus lives, Aus claims inno on RC, lynch pool is mastina/ofhrz/Aus/PP. Next Day, Aus claims another inno/dies, PP 50/50 chance at winning. This is scum PP's only out.

If Aus scum -> PP dies, Aus claims blocked. Lynch pool is RC/Aus/mastina/ofhrz. RC implied not blocker. test ofhrz govern on mastina, lynch mastina. Lynch pool is RC/ofhrz/Aus, implied Aus scum via 2 confirmed roles.
-> PP lives, Aus claims blocked, PP CC's and 1v1 means town win.
-> PP lives, Aus claims result. Aus has 50/50 in LYLO. Scum Aus's only out.

If RC blocking scum -> Aus dies, PP claims blocked, RC wins.
If RC nonblocking scum -> town autowin.

If pine is non roleblocking scum, RC slot autowins as blocking scum, Aus and PP have a 1v1 in LYLO as their out, mastina, ofhrz autolose as scum.

If Pine is roleblocking scum, we should be in a better situation, considering all of the block claim scenarios are impossible.

I'm satisfied with this event chain.
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Post Post #5284 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:24 am

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If Pine town:

Tomorrow, Aus probably dead.

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PP lynched.

Jingle/pops
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4p LYLO with 1 conftown. Solve here is more difficult and PP flip is hugely relevant. No where near autowin.

Hm. We can discuss this tomorrow if needed when we have a Pine flip.
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Post Post #5285 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:25 am

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Notably, PP only tiered claim.
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Post Post #5286 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:25 am

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Maybe PP fakeclaim here does make sense?
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Post Post #5287 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:25 am

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In post 5270, RadiantCowbells wrote:if pine flips exactly the role he said he is and nothing else i think that should mean our slot is treated as clear.
95% of the time we're in the mini where we agreed Fumuki was scum and my paranoia was superfluous. The other 5% of the time is literally the only time that matters.
find a way to play around me still being potential scum after a non-roleblocker flip that gives me mechanical autowin and you can do whatever you want.
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Post Post #5288 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:25 am

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Pine, towncase yourself/scumcase PP.
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Post Post #5289 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:27 am

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I have been a named VT all game. The only top 5 posters in Relationships to post here is UT, and he posted a bare vote on the mod. I’m not activated. I have no power to track.
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Post Post #5290 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:27 am

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In post 5287, Pine wrote:
In post 5270, RadiantCowbells wrote:if pine flips exactly the role he said he is and nothing else i think that should mean our slot is treated as clear.
95% of the time we're in the mini where we agreed Fumuki was scum and my paranoia was superfluous. The other 5% of the time is literally the only time that matters.
find a way to play around me still being potential scum after a non-roleblocker flip that gives me mechanical autowin and you can do whatever you want.
LYNCH THE SHIT OUT OF THIS POST
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Post Post #5291 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:28 am

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btw i universally tell my scumbuddies to stop posting if they get confirmed scum

not do that.
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Post Post #5292 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:28 am

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Honestly that’s the whole case. I agree you are obligated to lynch me, you don’t question guilties outside of LYLO. My townflip proves my story.

Further, I never replace out of this as scum. Ever. That’s not my style.
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Post Post #5293 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:29 am

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I'm legitimately considering the case where we lynch pongwin today.
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Post Post #5294 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:30 am

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In post 5291, RadiantCowbells wrote:btw i universally tell my scumbuddies to stop posting if they get confirmed scum

not do that.
RC you are such an arrogant fuck, the fact that you’ve never even really considered that I might be telling the truth is kind of insulting.
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Post Post #5295 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 5293, Jingle wrote:I'm legitimately considering the case where we lynch pongwin today.
Even better might be to get UT or Majiffy to post, fulfill my power condition, and let me Cupid myself to Penguin.

Today we lynch RC, or maaaaaybe Mastina. She’s a tough read and I kind of default to Town when she’s not posting.
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Post Post #5296 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:32 am

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if penguin is scum pine was going to get lynched anyway. if he wants to claim a guilty, why not claim it on someone valuable?
RC you are such an arrogant fuck, the fact that you’ve never even really considered that I might be telling the truth is kind of insulting.
didn't you just call me confirmed scum like 2 posts ago?
you're right. i am not considering the possibility of you being town. i think that it would be outlandish for PP to make this play in the way that he did if you are town and he is scum.

if i'm wrong then i'm wrong but i am never going to not vote you here and you calling me an "arrogant fuck" for playing mechanically optimally is very telling.
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Post Post #5297 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:33 am

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Note that Pine went from "powerlynch RC after this" to "RC you arrogant fuck" back to "hey maybe we should consider lynching RC and co. today and then have the 1v1 with me and penguin the next day"

dunno. i don't think there's a shadow of a chance that pine is town here. them both being scum is worth considering, but this? nah.
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Post Post #5298 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:35 am

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by the way if Pine's buddy isn't mastina then letting him chain and lynching him gives scum the win there instantly, if I need to point that out.
and if he's town he should know that Penguin is scum and thus be expecting to be roleblocked anyway.
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Post Post #5299 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:36 am

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Oh, no, we're 100% lynching in the 1v1 today.
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