Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Tim Goodman]

Ceejay / URAP isos are toxic waste.
Creature is missing some zest and hasn't been approaching this quite like I expect him to as scum.
I'm still diffident about Detective Pikachu.
LUVs's iso feels pretty bad.
RedPanda's iso feels pretty bad and like he's trying to be townread for his 'moving the game forwardness'
PB ???
Chemist also leaning scum to at least some extent.

[Gamma Emerald]

dang

i feel like both CC and EP are pretty hard town after that last interaction

like i guess CC might just be playing super well but i think i'm pretty happy clearing them both.

I can actually understand this given the previous post by CC

[Gamma Emerald]

cinnamon and cc are scum. Will post in sometime.

Now that I've come around on CC I don't like this post, feels like targeting LHF lurkers

[Klick]

u r a person 2

Detective Pikachu

Cinnamon

Uzi

Creature

EspressoPatronum

Chemist1423

Pink Ball

Klick

ceejayvinoya
ClearlyClarity

Tim Goodman

On the subject of RP, I found this post in particular to be less of a game-solving list and more of a 'I crossed off everyone who made an impression on me'. The people left on his list were the players that had posted least, with URAP replaced by EP.

[Tim Goodman]

I don't like RedPanda very much.

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually wasn't really impacted by it, it felt like an attempt to follow the crowd and look helpful so I didn't regard it as worth asking about

[Gamma Emerald]

Responding to 353^

[EspressoPatronum]

Really liked Gamma's Entrance. It made Cinnamon's slot look a lot better.

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

At this point, I'm pretty happy throwing my vote on anyone who isn't Tim, Pine (CC), Gamma (Cinnamon), or Creature.

[Gamma Emerald]

Pikachu is town and I’m not seeing any non-RVS reasoning for his wagon tbh

Call me back when something cool happens.

Kk, so you have DP as town. Any scumreads?

You made your vote in Klick in RVS. Do you still agree with your vote? Why/why not?

By "something cool" I don't mean "interrogate me because I'm on your arbitrary lurker prodlist" but w/e.

You're my biggest scumread rn. Klick is like... muddled. 105 was kinda bad but they actually try to scumhunt, even if misguided or reaction-testy.

Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.

Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.

I feel this is the same as cinnamon but this slot just backed off.

This reinforces how I feel about RP

[Detective Pikachu]

VOTE: RP let's go here then

[Tim Goodman]

I think voting RedPanda is likely to be incredibly unproductive so I don't want to vote them unless it's straight up speedlynch time.

Let's try this

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

[Detective Pikachu]

womp womp

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.

Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.

This feels really unnatural to me.

Why? I was getting a sense CC was trying to play coasting scum so declaring this kinda defeats that or at least it's not what I expect from coasting scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

What part is unnatural about the post is unnatural to you?

Huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.

Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.

This feels really unnatural to me.

I thought it was genuine. #217 reads as though Clarity is annoyed, and she admits as much in #219.

What part is unnatural about the post is unnatural to you?

First three sentences.

So not the post in general, but the way they kinda stuttered?

[Gamma Emerald]

Interested to hear some thoughts from the following people:

u r a person 2
Lil Uzi Vert
Cinnamon
ClearlyClarity

Lurker scum can be pretty dangerous. These four haven't posted much yet.

I think this looks good though

Espresso can be town

Why can’t this post come from scum? I disagree with his take on lurker scum to be honest.

You disagree that lurker scum can be dangerous?? Please elaborate.

You are unable to mislead, misdirect, and manipulate consistently if you’re lurking.

It's also not possible to contribute, and lurker scum is consistently a problem, Civ Mafia is a prime example of that. It's very valid to let town eat themselves alive.

[Gamma Emerald]

Side note - how do I link numbers to the corresponding posts? I've just been using #number to point ppl to the post in question, but a direct link is way more convenient for the reader.

[post=Number]Number[/post]

Actually just [post=Number]Number[/post] is needed if you're linking within the same thread and just need the number.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was waiting for both cinnamon and clearity reactions to my post to vote for the scummier one but since clearity is ignoring this game, I'm forced to choose.

I don't like that cinnamon ignored my post. Seems like cinnamon is scared of a back and forth that might happen.

Vote cinnamon

Still wanna hold to this push now that they've replaced out?

[Gamma Emerald]

Interested to hear some thoughts from the following people:

u r a person 2
Lil Uzi Vert
Cinnamon
ClearlyClarity

Lurker scum can be pretty dangerous. These four haven't posted much yet.

I think this looks good though

Espresso can be town

Why can’t this post come from scum? I disagree with his take on lurker scum to be honest.

You disagree that lurker scum can be dangerous?? Please elaborate.

You are unable to mislead, misdirect, and manipulate consistently if you’re lurking.

I've read several guides on forum maf over the last two weeks to help shore up my forum inexperience. Most guides say that successful maf teams have a combination of "deep threats" and manipulators. Manipulators stir up confusion, lead mislynches, and stall before they're picked off by lynches or PRs. Deep threats are responsible for blending in and making it to the end game to solidify a win.

You're right that lurkers can't manipulate consistently, but I would argue that you're overlooking potential deep threats.

Fwiw, I recognize that active players can still be deep threats, but I'd say lurkers are the more likely candidates. Lurking into deep threat has a smaller margin of error to being active (ie. Fewer chances to slip) and it requires less effort.

With all that theory in mind, I think focusing on lurkers has two benefits:
1. You limit the pool of lurker scum deep threats; and
2. Even if you lynch town, a lurker town is less valuable than an active town.

This is very accurate theory btw.

[Gamma Emerald]

what is a 'pole'?

What

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm trying to learn everyone's name before pushing anyone

...ok. How is this coming?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Pink Ball
Their last post doesn't mesh with their activity level or what I feel like their personality is

[EspressoPatronum]

What part is unnatural about the post is unnatural to you?

Huh?

I meant to write:
What part about the post is unnatural to you?
or
What part is unnatural about the post to you?

But instead I wrote both.... rip.

[EspressoPatronum]

VOTE: Pink Ball
Their last post doesn't mesh with their activity level or what I feel like their personality is

Also worth noting that 13 of his 15 posts are fluff. The remaining 2 were him hopping on the early push against me.

[Micc]

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