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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:15 am

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Just a heads up. I support the Vjörk wagon, even though it pains me to think my bae might be scum. I don't like the hood claim even though I'm inclined to believe SS. BUT I made a promise games ago that I will never vote him. So, sorry, I can't help the wagon along.
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:16 am

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Would Boon really be so cruel as to have three traitors and make it 10:5?

(Okay, he totally would.)

But regardless, we don't need to lynch traitors to win. So the innos are pretty good, at least for now.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:17 am

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In post 1275, Dr Easy Bake wrote:I don't like the hood claim even though I'm inclined to believe SS.
I mean the hood is incontrovertible; Joan can confirm I'm a neighborizer and I claimed my target on Vork at the beginning of the day.

Now, that doesn't make him town, of course.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 1277, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1275, Dr Easy Bake wrote:I don't like the hood claim even though I'm inclined to believe SS.
I mean the hood is incontrovertible; Joan can confirm I'm a neighborizer and I claimed my target on Vork at the beginning of the day.

Now, that doesn't make him town, of course.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:27 am

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(fwiw S_S i dont know your role, i just know youre a neighbourizer, dont know of any modifiers, i didnt ask joan what your role was because i thought see was a reflexive masonizer cause im dumb)
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:30 am

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I'm split, obviously (because I targeted multiple players last night), and I'm X-shot. That's it.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 1272, Krazy wrote:Eh even if vork is scum me having a correct read on creature and ss is probably more important to the win than his lynch lol

Chara/shiro is interesting, it's the closest to ai behavior from shiro we've seen yet so I don't know I want to discourage her from getting into the game even if vork does end up being today's lynch
i'm also in support of a Vork lynch after reading up on S_S's explanation of what's happened.

but also thumbs up on the me and Shiro thing, it's gotten me more interested and i should be interested.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:06 am

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In post 1275, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Just a heads up. I support the Vjörk wagon, even though it pains me to think my bae might be scum. I don't like the hood claim even though I'm inclined to believe SS. BUT I made a promise games ago that I will never vote him. So, sorry, I can't help the wagon along.
i'm not sure about an out of game promise colouring in-game actions, here.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:04 am

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In post 1282, Chara wrote:
In post 1275, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Just a heads up. I support the Vjörk wagon, even though it pains me to think my bae might be scum. I don't like the hood claim even though I'm inclined to believe SS. BUT I made a promise games ago that I will never vote him. So, sorry, I can't help the wagon along.
i'm not sure about an out of game promise colouring in-game actions, here.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:06 am

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In post 1222, Frozen Angel wrote:yeah I don't think I'm gonna change my vote this phase
In post 1223, Frozen Angel wrote:just found the claim that negates my ability that I want to see fliped.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:09 am

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In post 1236, Krazy wrote:Multihooder and a multi pt cop ok

Hmm

And deb is also compulsive hooder?
Quite a lot of hooders hmmm
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:10 am

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Inb4 PT cop is useless because like everyone is hooded (or atleast hooded with their team partners)
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:14 am

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In post 1251, Xtoxm wrote:so thats 3 diff neighboriser claims? i find it to be unlikely these are all town
Yep, likely scum may have gotten some hooding for them so they can get away from PT cop guilty.

but huh, there's already two scum immune to cop guilties already.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:15 am

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We probably need to coordinate the hoods so we can get enough results.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:03 am

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Guys what are the chances that the whole mafia is traitors or at the very elast a two memeber mafia and all traitors. Noowhere in the flipped roles does it say that they dont count as part of jingle for win con.

This would be imo thematically appropriate since the bad guys were pretty much all incognito in phantom menance and would make FA almost wholy negative utility with so many neighborizers and hoods.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 1226, Chara wrote:
In post 1213, Shiro wrote:Also this paired with them voting me the moment someone did seems at odds. I feel chara is hiding behind easy voting and not doing anything substantial.

Also some meta here, if I recall correctly chara dislikes playing scum and is far more prone to lurk, could be wrong here though
you're right on the first point. i'm just sheeping Krazy.

wrong on the second point. i don't have a lurking meta as scum, or a particular dislike of it.
And how did you go from voting them to sheepign them blindly exactly?
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:41 am

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In post 718, Chara wrote:
In post 696, Krazy wrote:Actually I have no idea what the fuck bins is claiming or why the fuck she claimed any part of her role

I feel like I need a lobotomy to play this game
i don't scumread Krazy anymore. :<

(not because of this post particularly but just the tone of the reply to me, and then the various posts about Bins after that.)
In post 821, Chara wrote:between the emotional read earlier and wanting to sheep RC i'm ok to call Krazy town.
why is Zulfy a wagon?
but it was a nice attempt at a gotcha anyways, Shiro.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:43 am

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and not explaining isn't the same as a blind sheep. i thought Krazy made good points. you actually pointed this out as a possibility when reacting to the vote on you (and the timing of my vote should make that clear, too).
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:02 pm

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Yea but then I isoed you and saw you did the same a few times in th epast as well.


Also fair enough I did a very quick iso. Still doesnt make it strong enough reasonign to go from scum to towen enough worthy to sheep, especially since you yourself said it was an emotional read and sheeping someone else.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:12 pm

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i see a bunch of anti-town utility in S_S's role if scum

neighbourizer for the traitors, blocks the PT cop

but S_S's play has been pretty town to me (targeting JoA, claiming transparently, that whole Zulfy thing - but he wouldn't have known Zulfy was scum as scum)

maybe i just am sus'd by a missing modifier not sure
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:21 pm

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In post 1293, Shiro wrote:Yea but then I isoed you and saw you did the same a few times in th epast as well.


Also fair enough I did a very quick iso. Still doesnt make it strong enough reasonign to go from scum to towen enough worthy to sheep, especially since you yourself said it was an emotional read and sheeping someone else.
i don't think Krazy's scum anymore, therefore sheeping her is fine to me because she's done well so far. i put stock into emotional reads.

i just realized RCE was the person i cited for sheeping on for town Krazy though. haha.
but even besides that i do think she's towny. the original vote was extremely early on in the game in the first place, stuff has happened since that.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:15 pm

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In post 1289, Shiro wrote:Guys what are the chances that the whole mafia is traitors or at the very elast a two memeber mafia and all traitors. Noowhere in the flipped roles does it say that they dont count as part of jingle for win con.

This would be imo thematically appropriate since the bad guys were pretty much all incognito in phantom menance and would make FA almost wholy negative utility with so many neighborizers and hoods.
I thought about this but then what happens if the killing mafia dies early? Then what, there just are no night kills? I guess I could see like, "Goon/sith" and "backup goon/sith apprentice" as matching in flavor but I have a really hard time seeing Boon create a game where scum don't have a PT.

I guess SS's role then does nominally fit the exception here and would also give him cover for why he starts the game in a hood, but it's also just a negative utility role for town so *shrug*. Doesn't in itself make him scum.
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:18 pm

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In post 1284, Creature wrote:
In post 1222, Frozen Angel wrote:yeah I don't think I'm gonna change my vote this phase
In post 1223, Frozen Angel wrote:just found the claim that negates my ability that I want to see fliped.
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Yeah she wants to lynch Vork, what's the question?

Also this was literally 1 minute after one of your posts so it's just like, interesting that you're reacting to it now
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 1283, Bins wrote:
In post 1282, Chara wrote:
In post 1275, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Just a heads up. I support the Vjörk wagon, even though it pains me to think my bae might be scum. I don't like the hood claim even though I'm inclined to believe SS. BUT I made a promise games ago that I will never vote him. So, sorry, I can't help the wagon along.
i'm not sure about an out of game promise colouring in-game actions, here.
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I mean I can make my own decisions about how I want to spend my votes. Consider the Vjörk thing a part of my gimmick.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:11 pm

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In post 1296, Krazy wrote: I guess I could see like, "Goon/sith" and "backup goon/sith apprentice" as matching in flavor
Since this is something I’ve been thinking about and now that you bring this up, I figure I see what everyone thinks.

What would be the opinion on a
Mass Flavor Claim?


Everyone can say the name of their role flavor. Zulfy was scum and he was Jar Jar. Now I can ironically love Jar Jar till the moon and back but this is obvious scum flavor. RC was scum and they were a droid called Battle Dave.
Don’t go shaking in your boots, this is just a
Flavor Claim.

This wouldn’t give scum any PR information that isn’t already out there.
This would only split people up into scummy and not scummy Star Wars characters. We can then evaluate the scummy characters and see if this makes sense to act on.
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