Newbie 1943: Crosswords (Game Over)

[Robbnva]

If people want to lynch me cause I am refusing to unvote teacher, the guy who broke site rules, that’s fine but don’t sit there and pretend it’s AI.

[Adorable]

Robbnva's post on #96 and #123 doesn't look like something a scum would say and he even said he's willing to get lynched. Scum should never give up like that or else they are just letting their scum team down.

On the first page it says day 1 will end in 10 days and we still have plenty of time to discuss.

[cyrus62]

no office intended Adorable but you do realize if you drag the day out and rob still gets lynch and flips scum instead of town you look bad right? just saying not ment to be harsh.

[Adorable]

no office intended Adorable but you do realize if you drag the day out and rob still gets lynch and flips scum instead of town you look bad right? just saying not ment to be harsh.

I've explained on #85. Just because I defend someone who turns out to be scum, that doesn't mean I will also be scum, it would mean I messed up on my read.

[Robbnva]

no office intended Adorable but you do realize if you drag the day out and rob still gets lynch and flips scum instead of town you look bad right? just saying not ment to be harsh.

Go read some completed mafia games please. This isn’t meant to be an insult or anything but a way for you to learn mafia. The worst thing this site did was take away ICs. Now nobody can actually teach people.

If you are actually town, that line of thinking is so wrong. You probably won’t listen/trust me so please go read games and learn for yourself

[cyrus62]

ok i will read more. thank you

[Spangled]

Scum teacher definitely doesn't vote you, though - he'd know it would get him lynched.

Explain this. How would teacher voting me get him lynched?

He knows you're a tunneller, and a good one at that. He has played with you before. No one targets a tunneller; it's utterly foolish; a good way to get lynched. His post might have been a bad attempt at humour, but I think it was one nevertheless.

To everyone else:
I don't think anything Robb's done so far is particularly scummy. I have only played one game with him, and he did replace out, but I think I played enough with him to know that how he's playing this game is his town self; brash and confident. He's quick to form reads, and sticks with them. I will say I haven't played with scum!Robb, but this Robb feels like town!Robb.

[Spangled]

Or at the very least NAI Robb.

[Spangled]

VOTE: Phone0Ix

back, and why is the cop claim self-voting

he said it was a rvs vote trying to get a laugh.

W-wat

No idiot would self-vote for RVS and claim to be the cop at the same time. Ph0enix, please do something a little more useful.

I'm not really sure he gets what RVS is: a way of applying pressure.

[Spangled]

Adorable's giving me towny vibes, especially #85.

#69 feels a little awkward, but in a newb!town way.

[Robbnva]

He knows you're a tunneller, and a good one at that. He has played with you before. No one targets a tunneller; it's utterly foolish; a good way to get lynched. His post might have been a bad attempt at humour, but I think it was one nevertheless.

But nobody ever lynches who I say. My tunnels usually go nowhere.

[cyrus62]

so now that you have a town lean on rob and adorable can you tell us who else you think is town and why .. i guse what i am saying give me your reads and i'll give you mine compare notes.

[cyrus62]

so after doing a quick iso on cyan i have to say he comes off as town to me . the way he got mad about the self vote and all.

[Spangled]

He knows you're a tunneller, and a good one at that. He has played with you before. No one targets a tunneller; it's utterly foolish; a good way to get lynched. His post might have been a bad attempt at humour, but I think it was one nevertheless.

But nobody ever lynches who I say. My tunnels usually go nowhere.

Maybe, but he still wouldn't want attention on him. He'd probably let you turn your attention to someone else, thinking you would eventually, or at least wait.

Besides, what was he hoping to gain out of it? What responses might you have had, besides making up with him, or what you did?
There are only two responses you were likely to make; neither would have made confusion. He replaced out when he didn't get the result he wanted; you making up with him. That is not the action of scum wanting confusion; he'd stay in, having got what he wanted.

Besides, if you tunnel the slot, you'll be creating confusion; exactly what he would want if he's scum. If you think he is scum, don't give into it; take your time, wait. Wait 'till the slot slips up and

then

pounce.

Pedit:
I have more of an NAI lean on Robb; a not-proven-guilty outlook, because half the PL seems to think he is, and I really don't. Okay, maybe it is a townlean then.

I don't really have many other opinions (besides on Adorable); I'm bad at forming reads.
Maybe slight townlean on you or Cyan, but they are the slightest of slight, and mostly because I feel you're contributing somewhat...

[Spangled]

But then again, your spam doesn't necessarily make you town, cyrus.

[Spangled]

Adorable's giving me towny vibes, especially #85.

#69 feels a little awkward, but in a newb!town way.

Although maybe it's just because of the slightly-poorly-phrased sentence there.

[cyrus62]

i'm trying we still in page 6 and until the game is in full swing we wont have much to go on i think the best thing to do is maybe cast a vote on some one now and see where it leads. cyan didn't give me much of a response so i think that's how town would act. given it was rvs

[cyrus62]

spangled ask red and ask cyan i always spam alot .. most of it is me thinking and posting my own thoughts. i am trying to slow the spam though as i am learning and trying to use better wording i been called unstable illogical and i liability by teacher so yes i am trying to improve and help more.

[Adorable]

Robb seems to be giving me town vibes and as for the other players, some of them I am null on and others looked sus with the fast votes which looked like Robb almost got hammered.

Cyrus - You said Cyan looks like a town lean to you because he got mad at the self vote and all. Which # was that on? I will check and see.

[Adorable]

I found it now. It looked like Phone0x was practicing on voting and I think that's why he voted himself. A player getting mad at someone voting themself is NAI.

[Spangled]

spangled ask red and ask cyan i always spam alot .. most of it is me thinking and posting my own thoughts. i am trying to slow the spam though as i am learning and trying to use better wording i been called unstable illogical and i liability by teacher so yes i am trying to improve and help more.

Could you give me a link to a scumgame of yours?

Phone could be newb!scum for me, but he could also be newb!town.
I am tending toward scum, though; his awkwardness hopping on the Robb wagon and his bad logic in doing so. The fact that he unvoted shortly after is NAI to me, but it doesn't clear him of the sheer, unadulterated

awkwardness

of his ISO.
I know it's Day 1, but I think I will go ahead and VOTE: Phone0Ix

Pedit:
Some of those fast votes were really suss, especially Phone's for me.
Pedit 2:
I think it's slightly town indicative; scum are fine with town players being stupid, but only town should react with annoyance.

[Spangled]

Of course, scum can fake annoyance, or be annoyed on principle because it's just silly to self-vote, especially for absolutely no reason.

[Adorable]

Connor's vote on Robb looked random saying he is uneasy about rvs and he wanted to try out new things. He was the third person to vote Robb, he only made 1 post, and I would like to hear more from him.

[Spangled]

I'm not feeling anything much on Lich at the moment. He's scumreading Robb but that's not really a reason to scumread him; it's somewhat understandable but doesn't take into account Robb's meta or his history with teacher.

[Spangled]

For reference for everyone (particularly those scumreading Robb) here's my one and only game with Robb, and here is my and Robb's ISO's respectively from the game. I was scum, he was town.