In post 187, momo wrote:Town Tier (in no particular order)
popsofctown - I have never played with pops but they are showing a great ability to go against what is being accepted. Going against my the reasons for me saying people requesting a role was scum, but still thinking they are scum. Calling out a50 for the Independence Day thing, calling out Vecna, and exposing what would be ideal scum strats. This is town. [/color
In post 123, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: Hidden Happiness
It's not unusual for some players to be disinterested by mechanics, but there's so many little things you can comment on here that it seems a little implausible she'd get bored. It's not stuff like hypoclaiming hider it's stuff like, do I want my scumread to become a miller? (I think I don't I think I just want to lynch my scumread).
I don't think the king's actions should be leashed on D3 but I think the king should be held accountable for his actions. It's possible the D3 roster is so powerful that the scum gets positive equity from the king drawing up a blatantly antitown playbook and being lynched the next day, granting inactive to the person we made the inventor or maybe even someone we made a cop day 2, killing the D5 IC, granting himself vengeful maybe... it could be some really bad stuff. So I think the kingship should be granted to a townread. A widely townread king who gets NKed would be good for us, a town king is only slightly better than a democratic day 3 and nothing like the advantage generated by a town inventor, the IC, probably it doesn't matter even as much as motion detector.
In post 132, popsofctown wrote:You are supposed to kill a negative utility PR, forcing the universal backup to become a negative utility PR. It's opposite day.
I have no idea why you are complaining about the setup design resulting in a nightkill strategy of kill the most protown player because that's the nightkill strategy in mountainous and also the nightkill strategy in basically any closed game where no successful rolefishing took place.
It's a social deduction game you're supposed to want to remove the people who are doing well at the social deduction game sorry you're not going to have some kind of fascinating decision whether it's better to surprise Veigar ult the healer before their heal spell or value removing the ranged carry but I would really consider my expectation betrayed rather than fulfilled if the rolecall mechanic added a separate axis for the nightkills instead of mostly being standard mafia.
In post 174, popsofctown wrote:You're an aussie but many people here treat American Independence day as a one shot, 1 day, 24 hour holiday. My parents planned dinner and a movie. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to /in for a game knowing you'll have a 1 day absence coming up.In post 153, Almost50 wrote:Here's a new strategy: Let's all in to games we know we won't play. Like, if you're on a holiday. or if you have exams, or you have a new job.. you're wedding is within a week.. etc.
If apthet is going to take Friday off from work and combine the weekend into a 5 day vacation I'm definitely with you, though, I missed Pokémon Ruby Mafia because I knew I had a 1 week vacation coming up.
Iconeum replaced into a game about a week before its wedding so we can policy lynch Iconeum here if you feel strongly about this
In post 184, popsofctown wrote:Your win condition isn't to make momo happy it's to kill all the mafia.
If he's truly your top townread you should want him king.
I don't particularly want the gladiator ability to be on someone who's eager to use it. Gladiator days generate less information. It's only a half step away from governor where technically if you fire it very accurately it furthers the town wincon but overall you're subverting the protown mechanics of the game and it's negative utility really.
In post 360, popsofctown wrote:"color" commentary by drunkpopsThere have been no previous proposals.
Current proposal(by momo ):
1-shot Gladiator: momoNope not a fan, see my previous posts. Prefer 1-shot Gladiator : Hidden Happiness, since they're too apathetic to dig into mechanics and hopefully additional too hydra to use a high-risk high-reward mechanic. When I play Mario Kart Double Dash co-op I'm too scared to take the fancy shortcuts and embarrass myself and harm my poor teammate, true story.
Inactive: SaudadeI'm pretty o.k. with this
Day 5 Innocent Child: OversoulThis seems wasteful as this slot seems legible. I'd prefer to see this on Nero Cain, who I remember difficulty reading, CheekyTeeky who has seemed to start to establish a difficult to read style so far, or even just like "the hydra because hydras are hard to read"
- : popsofctown
I'm not going to object to getting the second most powerful role, I think if I sketched out what my INT DEX STR CHR WIS LUK spread was for mafia I'm better at scumreading than at townreading compared to the average player (but it's still easier to townread), for the record.
Day 3 King: Vecnaok I guess I can swallow pride/proxy ego enough for this, certainly not a slot who is going to be lazy and submit rand choices.
- : Lil Uzi Vert
Yeah I don't think LUV is generally NK bait
- : apthet
We don't have posts from this player. Miller should go to a high legibility player. It's the opposite of day 5 IC. I'd want to see this on Oversoul or Almost50 or momo.
[*]: Gamma EmeraldThis is actually kind of fits GE a bit I think he would tend to survive a to get lots of shots off. It doesn't necessarily need to fall in town hands because a Motion Detector can themselves be caught in a lie at times.
[*]: Nero CainI'd rather the neighborhood go to a townread player or at least someone who I think would use it. There's scenarios where you want to communicate night action results only in the neighborhood so an all town neighborhood can be good and NC is pretty null to me so far.
[*]: Almost50I tentatively TR Almost50 so this is ok
[*]Timid: Hidden HappinessThis role is basically VT. VT/ "can't become king if callforjudgment distributes a king again". So it's whatever
[*]Night 1 Universal Backup: CheekyTeekyOne of the scummier slots in the game for me by PoE so I'm ok with it getting a negative utility role, which it is pretty likely this becomes.
[*]Vanilla: IconeumThis is an excellent role for someone who went 49 hours without visiting the thread in a recent game >_> <_< >_>
[*]: TitusThe replace-out and the events leading up to it don't look great. I think RC is a guy who maybe has some kinds of principles and sensibilities going on that are not necessarily 100% married to his alignment, but I don't see anyway this lynch is -worse- than rand, I don't think he'd set up a categorical rule against replacing out as scum over issue X or Y.
First quote is my thoughts on him during my colored post. Haven't changed much.In post 446, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: Vote: Against willing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good here
Next 4 quotes are posts that he made that struck me as particularly town. Challenging thoughts even when his reads agreed. Going against the status quo. All great town posts.
The last two are his analysis on the proposal. He got a powerful role, was willing to give up King, and agreed with most decisions.
Then, he voted against saying that good is the enemy of perfect. I don't see scum pops doing that. Nobody would have called him scum for accepting the proposal. But he rejected it anyways.