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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:00 am

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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:00 am

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@momo: That doesn't make sense now. Both you and Oversoul drafted proposals that gave Vecna the Miller. He just did what you guys implied you wanted him to get. Not his fault.

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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:08 am

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@Oversoul HH would be the backup. I corrected that flaw later. You're good enough as town and had lurker issues in the past that can make you lynchbait.

VOTE: Against

Can we stop locking in proposals that don't work?

I came in, gave the correct response when I recovered. What more do you want? I can't catch the entire scumteam, explain optimal strategy, stop town from biting it's own head off, block scum from getting the PRs and clear myself alone.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:09 am

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In post 751, Almost50 wrote:@momo: That doesn't make sense now. Both you and Oversoul drafted proposals that gave Vecna the Miller. He just did what you guys implied you wanted him to get. Not his fault.
Vecna should not be Miller. Vecna in a Miller proposal "must be lynched" after he mislynched a townie unless he gets the FN.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:11 am

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Why do Pops and Gamma have neighbors?

:?

Lurker issues? When did I have lurker issues?
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:33 am

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In post 752, Titus wrote:@Oversoul HH would be the backup. I corrected that flaw later. You're good enough as town and had lurker issues in the past that can make you lynchbait.

VOTE: Against

Can we stop locking in proposals that don't work?

I came in, gave the correct response when I recovered. What more do you want? I can't catch the entire scumteam, explain optimal strategy, stop town from biting it's own head off, block scum from getting the PRs and clear myself alone.
you didn't give the optimal response

you scumslipped for one

then u ignored all the reasons you are scum

and just tried to scumhunt, but only had bullshit reads
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:36 am

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To quote pops, i'm not willing to let good be the enemy of perfect

we still have a lot of time, new proposals can extend the deadline

how about we just reject this one, and have you propose one that gives vecna inventor and iconeum miller

that proposal is better, and town would have nothing to lose

plus a longer day gives us more information
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:37 am

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Are you that heavily townreading Iconeum?
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:38 am

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In post 754, Oversoul wrote:Why do Pops and Gamma have neighbors?

:?

Lurker issues? When did I have lurker issues?
Umm practically every game before I came back. You'd be great early but fall off.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:40 am

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Hmm... I’ll need to check into my own history. I don’t think I would ever consider myself a lurker.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:40 am

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In post 756, momo wrote:
To quote pops, i'm not willing to let good be the enemy of perfect

we still have a lot of time, new proposals can extend the deadline

how about we just reject this one, and have you propose one that gives vecna inventor and iconeum miller

that proposal is better, and town would have nothing to lose

plus a longer day gives us more information
Ok, then vote against. I think Vecna inventor is better but there are other improvements.

Miller should not go to a lurker for instance. Because that forces the inventor's hand.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 759, Oversoul wrote:Hmm... I’ll need to check into my own history. I don’t think I would ever consider myself a lurker.
Look at the stretch of games where you'd get replaced or prodded a lot.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 757, Oversoul wrote:Are you that heavily townreading Iconeum?
Let's go with that explanation for now.
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:42 am

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In post 762, momo wrote:
In post 757, Oversoul wrote:Are you that heavily townreading Iconeum?
Let's go with that explanation for now.
to be clear i still TR vecna

this switch would just be better
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:42 am

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oversoul
would you be willing to make a proposal identical to vecna's but switching vecna and iconeum
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 761, Titus wrote:
In post 759, Oversoul wrote:Hmm... I’ll need to check into my own history. I don’t think I would ever consider myself a lurker.
Look at the stretch of games where you'd get replaced or prodded a lot.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 764, momo wrote:
oversoul
would you be willing to make a proposal identical to vecna's but switching vecna and iconeum
Why are we rushing putting forth proposals?

Can we at least discuss mine?
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:46 am

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In post 765, Oversoul wrote:
In post 761, Titus wrote:
In post 759, Oversoul wrote:Hmm... I’ll need to check into my own history. I don’t think I would ever consider myself a lurker.
Look at the stretch of games where you'd get replaced or prodded a lot.
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Depression sucks. Sorry. I was dealing with it when I left for awhile. Still do.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:52 am

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My main issue is that this proposal seemingly negates the usefulness of the neighbors despite multiple people saying they could read one another in the neighborhood. Once it fails I will propose momo

VOTE: Against

I think I see your reasoning for giving him the inventor.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 768, Oversoul wrote:My main issue is that this proposal seemingly negates the usefulness of the neighbors despite multiple people saying they could read one another in the neighborhood. Once it fails I will propose momo

VOTE: Against

I think I see your reasoning for giving him the inventor.
Neighbors can be used as either
1) Masonry
2) At least 1 unknown sorting each other
3) Two scumfucks to block them from prs.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:03 am

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My issue with Momo being neighbor is he wants me to be a neighbor as well and that just isn’t my strong suit.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:05 am

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What’s your read on Cheeky? We can give her neighbor and have Saudade sort her.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:08 am

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In post 753, Titus wrote:Vecna should not be Miller. Vecna in a Miller proposal "must be lynched" after he mislynched a townie unless he gets the FN.

This declaration adds up to the previous ones for why you must be lynched today, regardless of your alignment.

It has been already mod confirmed that Miller would make FN worthless if given to him, because Miller in this game is Universal, meaning Vecna will be treated as scum ALWAYS. If he can't be confirmed as IC if given Miller then he can't sent a message as a Friendly Neighbor either. (Check )

Your "not reading upon replacement" is good enough in Normal games. In Theme Park it's lazy at best, but could very well be an excuse for scum to manipulate the day play.

Let me sum it up for you: You don't know how the roles work, and you don't know how they interact with each other, and you don't know why X has a given read on Y. You really think that's the way to solve the game IF you are town?

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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:10 am

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In post 770, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:My issue with Momo being neighbor is he wants me to be a neighbor as well and that just isn’t my strong suit.
the other neighbor doesn't need to be you

it needs to be someone i think is town and when i was making the proposal that's just how it worked out

but yeah, neighbor should probs go to someone who would use it more than me
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
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- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:11 am

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In post 772, Almost50 wrote:
In post 753, Titus wrote:Vecna should not be Miller. Vecna in a Miller proposal "must be lynched" after he mislynched a townie unless he gets the FN.

This declaration adds up to the previous ones for why you must be lynched today,
regardless of your alignment.


It has been already mod confirmed that Miller would make FN worthless if given to him, because Miller in this game is Universal, meaning Vecna will be treated as scum ALWAYS. If he can't be confirmed as IC if given Miller then he can't sent a message as a Friendly Neighbor either. (Check )

Your "not reading upon replacement" is good enough in Normal games. In Theme Park it's lazy at best, but could very well be an excuse for scum to manipulate the day play.

Let me sum it up for you: You don't know how the roles work, and you don't know how they interact with each other, and you don't know why X has a given read on Y. You really think that's the way to solve the game IF you are town?
a50, bro that was a great post

and then you had to go and say regardless of your alignment

:(

why is sorting ppl so hard
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
Boonskies
- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now
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