Role Call I (Game Over)

[Iconeum]

Titus, if the proposal was to kill off Mr. Happiness, what would you say?

[Titus]

Sorry momo was doing the emotional attack not vecna

[Titus]

Titus, if the proposal was to kill off Mr. Happiness, what would you say?

Only if to save me.

You'd need a hell of a case he agency captured me and town hard tunneled on RC and never gave me a chance bc RC quit to preserve his winrate.

Not impossible but no interest today.

[popsofctown]

I do not feel like he has done any real scumhunting this game. He called you out for wanting King, among other roles, and then when momo did it he looked the other way. I feel like he is purposefully trying to keep a low profile in a game with a lot of head strong players.

Also, your proposal is so far out of left field I don't even know what to do with it. For the record, I would never use my gladiator ability (unless I had a guilty).

I think the way ice has played the game has been fine compared to other players. I know a fact no one would ever say yes to my proposal but I felt if I threw it out there it'd draw some attention to my slot so people would stop ignoring me

This is a poor way to draw attention. A player of your calliber is perfectly capable of getting attention. Throwing away your proposal like that seems fishy.

I mean maybe a50 said that

but did i remember it?

no i did not

if iconeum is gonna lowkey scumside and vote yes every single proposal and maybe like 2-3 other people do that i wanted to jam a proposal rather than take a moment to research my choices better because now there's strategic edge to proposing at that point

I voted yes on one (1) proposal this game. One. I've been playing this game, and was VLA for the weekend. How is that lowkeying?

The V/LA is what makes me upset about the For vote. Because any reasonable timetable for that proposal passing has you performing no further dayplay and coming back on Monday to perform night actions. Town!Iconeum wants a larger part in D1 than that.

If you, for whatever RL reasons, were active on MS.net during the process of the proposal passing I'd be less pissed that you voted For. You're either scum or were willing to put very little effort into Day 1.

[Titus]

I do not feel like he has done any real scumhunting this game. He called you out for wanting King, among other roles, and then when momo did it he looked the other way. I feel like he is purposefully trying to keep a low profile in a game with a lot of head strong players.

Also, your proposal is so far out of left field I don't even know what to do with it. For the record, I would never use my gladiator ability (unless I had a guilty).

I think the way ice has played the game has been fine compared to other players. I know a fact no one would ever say yes to my proposal but I felt if I threw it out there it'd draw some attention to my slot so people would stop ignoring me

This is a poor way to draw attention. A player of your calliber is perfectly capable of getting attention. Throwing away your proposal like that seems fishy.

I mean maybe a50 said that

but did i remember it?

no i did not

if iconeum is gonna lowkey scumside and vote yes every single proposal and maybe like 2-3 other people do that i wanted to jam a proposal rather than take a moment to research my choices better because now there's strategic edge to proposing at that point

I voted yes on one (1) proposal this game. One. I've been playing this game, and was VLA for the weekend. How is that lowkeying?

The V/LA is what makes me upset about the For vote. Because any reasonable timetable for that proposal passing has you performing no further dayplay and coming back on Monday to perform night actions. Town!Iconeum wants a larger part in D1 than that.

If you, for whatever RL reasons, were active on MS.net during the process of the proposal passing I'd be less pissed that you voted For. You're either scum or were willing to put very little effort into Day 1.

*gets popcorn as her gun to her head scumread fight*

[Vecna]

guys, I hate to say it, but im starting to get town feelings from the titus slot here.

I hate that out of all of the people you said this. Does scum Vecna really town a read around at this point? Maybe for credit if he does nothing to stop the Titus lynch but it makes me second guess my scumread on this slot since Titus is obv town.

guys, I hate to say it, but im starting to get town feelings from the titus slot here.

i guess

but you have to consider the context this read is coming in

because she claims to have not read the game, she hasn't addressed the valid scumreads on her slot

she's pushing forward trying to act town, but i just don't feel it

completely ignoring the fact that the majority of the game wants you lynched isn't a good look

like i'm known for having an idgaf attitude about wagons as town, but as town in this game, if all the serious proposals had me getting lynched, i'd address the issue

Just because everyone was so hung up on RC doesn't mean we should just dismiss Titus. You don't try to 'act' town what kind of logic is this? Are you getting towny vibes from her and just dismissing it as acting or? This was the same thing with the CheekyTeeky catch up. 'These look town but....' Let me explainsomething: Everything in the game can be towny or scummy period. It's about the actions itself and the player that are important and Titus actions are blatantly obv town. The unawareness of her lynch. The way she's acting. All blatantly town.

are you really fine with vecna giving himself miller?

He's town

Hard nope.

Are you that heavily townreading Iconeum?

Are you not? Because you should be. If you're not why

And this post also makes me think HH is town.

Either im being played properly by hh and titus (whic is possible) or theres some major powerwolfing goin on up in here.

[Vecna]

1-shot Gladiator: Oversoul
Inactive: Gamma Emerald (following partner on this one)
Day 5 Innocent Child: Hidden Happiness (grumble)
Inventor: Iconeum
Day 3 King: popsofctown
Macho: Nero Cain
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Luv (But we leash him to where we want him)
Vecna:Neighbor
Saudade: Neighbor
apthet: Timid
CheekyTeeky:Night 1 Universal Backup
Titus:Vanilla
Compulsive Quitter: Almost50

Spicy. and not at all terrible. Better even than some.of the other stuff proposed to counter mine.

[Titus]

guys, I hate to say it, but im starting to get town feelings from the titus slot here.

I hate that out of all of the people you said this. Does scum Vecna really town a read around at this point? Maybe for credit if he does nothing to stop the Titus lynch but it makes me second guess my scumread on this slot since Titus is obv town.

guys, I hate to say it, but im starting to get town feelings from the titus slot here.

i guess

but you have to consider the context this read is coming in

because she claims to have not read the game, she hasn't addressed the valid scumreads on her slot

she's pushing forward trying to act town, but i just don't feel it

completely ignoring the fact that the majority of the game wants you lynched isn't a good look

like i'm known for having an idgaf attitude about wagons as town, but as town in this game, if all the serious proposals had me getting lynched, i'd address the issue

Just because everyone was so hung up on RC doesn't mean we should just dismiss Titus. You don't try to 'act' town what kind of logic is this? Are you getting towny vibes from her and just dismissing it as acting or? This was the same thing with the CheekyTeeky catch up. 'These look town but....' Let me explainsomething: Everything in the game can be towny or scummy period. It's about the actions itself and the player that are important and Titus actions are blatantly obv town. The unawareness of her lynch. The way she's acting. All blatantly town.

are you really fine with vecna giving himself miller?

He's town

Hard nope.

Are you that heavily townreading Iconeum?

Are you not? Because you should be. If you're not why

And this post also makes me think HH is town.

Either im being played properly by hh and titus (whic is possible) or theres some major powerwolfing goin on up in here.

Hey whatever gets you to vote scum

But A50 is obvscum

[Vecna]

I do not feel like he has done any real scumhunting this game. He called you out for wanting King, among other roles, and then when momo did it he looked the other way. I feel like he is purposefully trying to keep a low profile in a game with a lot of head strong players.

Also, your proposal is so far out of left field I don't even know what to do with it. For the record, I would never use my gladiator ability (unless I had a guilty).

I think the way ice has played the game has been fine compared to other players. I know a fact no one would ever say yes to my proposal but I felt if I threw it out there it'd draw some attention to my slot so people would stop ignoring me

Town post

[Vecna]

Odd-Night Motion Detector: Luv (But we leash him to where we want him)

Best idea I've seen in all thread! Let's tell scum which of their members not to send to do the kill, or who is best to target with the rolestop, REALLY great idea!

Hmmmm

[Titus]

Odd-Night Motion Detector: Luv (But we leash him to where we want him)

Best idea I've seen in all thread! Let's tell scum which of their members not to send to do the kill, or who is best to target with the rolestop, REALLY great idea!

Hmmmm

Wow does A50 really think the md works as a tracker?

By his logic we should lynch him for nor reading

[Nero Cain]

Vecna ur not getting naked day 1. I am.

ummm...no one wants to see a naked vecna.

[Nero Cain]

I don't really like the idea of giving scummy players a miller role b/c assuming we get a cop @ some point they can just use but "im a miller" as an excuse for why they invested as red. Miller should go to someone that's town and a that's being heavily town read by the majority.

And for that reason, I'm out.

VOTE: against

That is exactly what I am darling.

So what do you think about yourself in the IC role, becayse thats the change id expect you to comment on.

The miller allocation has been there for a while.

What does the bolded mean? I mean, giving me IC just gets me shot n4. Do you think that scum want to deal with conf town Nero? no, they don't. I'm not really sure what would be best to give me b/c I'm not very good at long term strategy. I kinda liked the idea of being the backup and having one of the useful prs but eh...

[Iconeum]

I do not feel like he has done any real scumhunting this game. He called you out for wanting King, among other roles, and then when momo did it he looked the other way. I feel like he is purposefully trying to keep a low profile in a game with a lot of head strong players.

Also, your proposal is so far out of left field I don't even know what to do with it. For the record, I would never use my gladiator ability (unless I had a guilty).

I think the way ice has played the game has been fine compared to other players. I know a fact no one would ever say yes to my proposal but I felt if I threw it out there it'd draw some attention to my slot so people would stop ignoring me

This is a poor way to draw attention. A player of your calliber is perfectly capable of getting attention. Throwing away your proposal like that seems fishy.

I mean maybe a50 said that

but did i remember it?

no i did not

if iconeum is gonna lowkey scumside and vote yes every single proposal and maybe like 2-3 other people do that i wanted to jam a proposal rather than take a moment to research my choices better because now there's strategic edge to proposing at that point

I voted yes on one (1) proposal this game. One. I've been playing this game, and was VLA for the weekend. How is that lowkeying?

The V/LA is what makes me upset about the For vote. Because any reasonable timetable for that proposal passing has you performing no further dayplay and coming back on Monday to perform night actions. Town!Iconeum wants a larger part in D1 than that.

If you, for whatever RL reasons, were active on MS.net during the process of the proposal passing I'd be less pissed that you voted For. You're either scum or were willing to put very little effort into Day 1.

This is implying that I purposefully went VLA to lowkey this game...
Or that I should vote against a proposal that I support just to not 'possibly' end the day

wow

[Vecna]

VOTE: for

I have a bad feeling about this

[Vecna]

I put forth the following as proposal

Gladiator - Hidden Happiness
Inactive - Saudude
D5 IC - Gamma Emerald
Inventor - popsofctown
D3 King - momo
Macho - CheekyTeeky
Miller - Nero Cain
Odd Night Motion Detector - Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor - Oversoul
Neighbor- almost50
Timid - Iconeum
N1 Universal Backup - Vecna
Vanilla - apthet
Compulsive Quitter - Titus


VOTE: For

Bolded green for thoughts this time, because I really like the way this color looks (don't judge me).

Mostly I'm in support of this proposal. Voting for this rn because a lot of ppl have used theirs. Don't know if we'll get a better one.

Gladiator HH is fine, as long as we're sticking with pops' idea that using the gladiator 1-shot is a scum claim. If you can't bring town to a consensus, you're doing it wrong. Don't force their hand.

As I said before, neighbor would have been more fun but I agree that a50 and oversoul will use it better than me. Both of you are townleans. On top of working together, your main goal should be reading each other.

Miller Nero is an interesting choice, given that I think he's town, but not 100% sure. That said, strongest town reads have more important roles. In late game, just because he's the miller, doesn't mean that he shouldn't be lynched. Should keep on reading him as normal.

Motion detector LUV is nice. He's town. LUV, I'm reading into your other ideas and secrecy as town who is playing his cards to his chest. I'm assuming you know who you need to track in case RC flips town.

Titus lynch was a given.

If RC flips town and a high scum utility PR dies, Vecna probs scum.

If RC flips scum, Vecna Town.

If RC flips town and a low or negative utility PR dies, WIFOM aspects must be considered and reads must be made.

Overall, this is a good proposal. Combined with the flip, it should give the town a lot of information. We just need to play it right. In case I die before I get to make another post, this is goodbye. If we follow through with this proposal and town plays smart, we should win regardless of the flip.

with this current proposal we still have way too many high value nk targets.

We achieved the exact opposite of what we set out to do.

[Vecna]

An Old Post Game Post From Gamma

Scum can experience genuine frustration. Gamma said that in this thread, and he has an old post backing it up. It sounded incredibly genuine when he said it, but I wasn't sure. It was one line repeated over and over. Now, we see in the post game of a game in which he was

town

, he made a similar post.

Gamma is town.

using old logic you used as town before does not mean you suddenly forget that wisdom when your role pm turns red.

bad post, sorry.

[Vecna]

I WANT YOU TO LIVE YOU DUMB DONKEY

ainy nobody killing GE early

[Vecna]

Vecna ur not getting naked day 1. I am. That's why scum are after me. You're an ifiot tunneling gama.

No offense lu but ur Gamma read is shit.

take some water and realize im not tunneling that slot whatsoever.

[Vecna]

VOTE: against

bad proposal mateys

[momo]

I put forth the following as proposal

Gladiator - Hidden Happiness
Inactive - Saudude
D5 IC - Gamma Emerald
Inventor - popsofctown
D3 King - momo
Macho - CheekyTeeky
Miller - Nero Cain
Odd Night Motion Detector - Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor - Oversoul
Neighbor- almost50
Timid - Iconeum
N1 Universal Backup - Vecna
Vanilla - apthet
Compulsive Quitter - Titus


VOTE: For

Bolded green for thoughts this time, because I really like the way this color looks (don't judge me).

Mostly I'm in support of this proposal. Voting for this rn because a lot of ppl have used theirs. Don't know if we'll get a better one.

Gladiator HH is fine, as long as we're sticking with pops' idea that using the gladiator 1-shot is a scum claim. If you can't bring town to a consensus, you're doing it wrong. Don't force their hand.

As I said before, neighbor would have been more fun but I agree that a50 and oversoul will use it better than me. Both of you are townleans. On top of working together, your main goal should be reading each other.

Miller Nero is an interesting choice, given that I think he's town, but not 100% sure. That said, strongest town reads have more important roles. In late game, just because he's the miller, doesn't mean that he shouldn't be lynched. Should keep on reading him as normal.

Motion detector LUV is nice. He's town. LUV, I'm reading into your other ideas and secrecy as town who is playing his cards to his chest. I'm assuming you know who you need to track in case RC flips town.

Titus lynch was a given.

If RC flips town and a high scum utility PR dies, Vecna probs scum.

If RC flips scum, Vecna Town.

If RC flips town and a low or negative utility PR dies, WIFOM aspects must be considered and reads must be made.

Overall, this is a good proposal. Combined with the flip, it should give the town a lot of information. We just need to play it right. In case I die before I get to make another post, this is goodbye. If we follow through with this proposal and town plays smart, we should win regardless of the flip.

with this current proposal we still have way too many high value nk targets.

We achieved the exact opposite of what we set out to do.

As long as UB is town, high value NK targets shouldn’t matter. We might not have a backup in future days and should use this opportunity to get the strongest TRs solid roles.

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: against

bad proposal mateys

ok but why? Also, nothing to say about 912?

[Iconeum]

VOTE: for

I have a bad feeling about this

ur not townreading momo?

[Iconeum]

I don't really like the idea of giving scummy players a miller role b/c assuming we get a cop @ some point they can just use but "im a miller" as an excuse for why they invested as red. Miller should go to someone that's town and a that's being heavily town read by the majority.

And for that reason, I'm out.

VOTE: against

That is exactly what I am darling.

So what do you think about yourself in the IC role, becayse thats the change id expect you to comment on.

The miller allocation has been there for a while.

What does the bolded mean? I mean, giving me IC just gets me shot n4. Do you think that scum want to deal with conf town Nero? no, they don't. I'm not really sure what would be best to give me b/c I'm not very good at long term strategy. I kinda liked the idea of being the backup and having one of the useful prs but eh...

This sounds like dodging. Being backup is likely to give you a powerfull role, depending on scum strategy which means a likely early exit as well.
If it's your goal to live past N4, why not go for some of the lesser roles?

[Iconeum]

Titus you got a case on A50?