BTE: Boon Wars - The Boondom Menace

[Krazy]

I generally think that we should not assume fa failed to submit two separate night actions? Even if fa's result contradicts what we thought we knew about expected pts.

[Bins]

prob cause reflexive isn't an action, it's "passive"

[Bins]

(hence why we dont see DEB either)

[Krazy]

hmm good point actually

FA do your shots recharge if you hit a PT? or would that be cutting you off from invests later on down the line?

whenever I hit a pt I lose a charge and it won't be recharged again. It will be recharged as long as I'm not hitting a pt

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@boon can partners submit night actions for their partner if their partner is missing during night?

[Krazy]

(hence why we dont see DEB either)

He wasn't watching joan so he shouldn't see deb? Or what do you mean?

[Bins]

it doesnt make sense to me that FA would target Titus + Joan... because tht would mean she wanted both shots returned, which doesnt make sense

pedit - because DEB would have gotten the reflexive action as well? so he would have shown on the watcher/tracker results

[Krazy]

This is weird because given her level of activity it is plausible fa's action would be randomized but it's weird that "joan + shiro" is very close to what creature was suggesting

[Bins]

Since you are Confabulating, your actions will only succeed if you target someone in a Private Thread.

oh

so like

FA's shot wouldnt show on Xtoms result... cause if it failed, then it wouldnt have been a successful action

SO WAIT

[Krazy]

Oh that's a good question

@boon if a tracker tracked fa, and fa targeted a person in a pt, would the travker show fa targeting someone in a pt?

[Bins]

not worth to die without revealing this
im a 1-shot combined tracker watcher
i was expecting to get separate tracker/watcher results but all i got was a list of names so i dont know which is which
shiro, titus, joan
2 of these were FA's compulsive targets, the 3rd is the killer

Tbh if FA had an action go through on these people (and theyre up there) it means that they were not in a PT.. we already know Titus isnt in a PT and would refund Joans shot

Joan was targetted by DEB so we already know why that's there

Wait why the fuck isn't DEB up there ???? hello pls

THEREFORE why the heck is Titus up there, because it's not due to FA

[Bins]

HERE WE GO

1. DEB why the fuck are you not showing up on the tracker results and Joan is
2. Titus isn't up there because she was targeted by FA, so that's an not counted for action
3. Why the heck isn't FROZEN ANGEL up in that list? Does this mean the kill was Ninja?
4. If Shiro isn't in a PT, it is possible they are a FA target

[Bins]

im drunk and nothing is maKING SENSE

[Krazy]

Bins I think you're maybe confused, xtoxm is saying he targeted fa, tracked fa, and watched fa. Deb did not target fa and fa did not target deb so he should not be listed in xtoxm's result.

[Bins]

If Shiro isn't in a PT, it is possible they are a FA target

wait incorrect

it is possible Shiro is in a PT and is a successful FA target, making them SUS af

but hard to confirm this ofc

[Bins]

Bins I think you're maybe confused, xtoxm is saying he targeted fa, tracked fa, and watched fa. Deb did not target fa and fa did not target deb so he should not be listed in xtoxm's result.

OOOOOOOOOOOH

[Bins]

omg kill me

[Bins]

ok yeah but the failed action stuff is still like good quesTION

we will wait for the boonster

[Bins]

@boon if a tracker tracked fa, and fa targeted a person in a pt, would the travker show fa targeting someone in a pt?

wait isn't this backward

@BOON -

if FA targeted someone NOT in a PT (therefore, causing her action to fail), would this action be trackable/watchable? (or would it be No Result)

[Krazy]

Abilities:
• At night, you may target a player. This does nothing else.
• If you have the shots to do so, you MUST use 2 separate actions.
• Since you are Confabulating, your actions will only succeed if you target someone in a Private Thread.
• Since you are Recharged, if you have an action that doesn't go through, you will be informed that your shot has been refunded.

So theoretically, if both Titus and Shiro are not in PTs, then FA's action should have failed regardless of which she targeted, therefore she maybe should not even be showing up on Xtoxm's result?

So, theoretically, both Titus + Shiro could be scum. If they don't have a strongman, but have a roleblocker, they could go for kill on FA while also blocking in case the kill fails?

I kinda think that with FA dead Shiro can claim anyway though?

[Boonskiies]

hmm good point actually

FA do your shots recharge if you hit a PT? or would that be cutting you off from invests later on down the line?

whenever I hit a pt I lose a charge and it won't be recharged again. It will be recharged as long as I'm not hitting a pt

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@boon can partners submit night actions for their partner if their partner is missing during night?

Yeah, I'd allow it.

[Boonskiies]

@boon if a tracker tracked fa, and fa targeted a person in a pt, would the travker show fa targeting someone in a pt?

wait isn't this backward

@BOON -

if FA targeted someone NOT in a PT (therefore, causing her action to fail), would this action be trackable/watchable? (or would it be No Result)

It would still be seen.

[Krazy]

Townblock
1 - Bins --

Bins' Lamist interjections after the wagon lost steam and then pushing Krazy off of it is the scummiest thing I've seen this game.

Bins is basically conftown to me with RCE's iso
2 - Creature -- 1388 is the type of lategame wagon move that I am very confident comes from town Creature

Mechtown
Joan -- twice confirmed by SS + DEB means I don't have to think about this slot, which is exactly what I wanted. I don't know why Joan thinks there's anything more to say there.

Role seems likely real
Xtoxm -- Would surprise me a bit in this gamestate that Xtoxm would create a parity cop guilty on a partner, although he's done ballsy stuff before. But the parity cop guilty seems definitely real since his results are too confusing to be fake. He's definitely trueclaiming even if it doesn't make him 1000% town

Day 1 townreads
ofhrz -- Really liked for town day 1, Nick has kinda become very lurky on the site recently but meh
DEB -- Really liked interactions day 1 for town, think the interaction with the Vork wagon at EoD2 was a bit ??? but wouldn't lynch here soon

Nulls
SS -- Vork argued this was town and I got bigger fish to fry for today
Chara -- Where are you?

At least one scum:
Shiro -- If FA's actions n2 were randomized, and somehow landed on Joan+Titus, then I guess it makes sense for Shiro to be scum. Beyond this, I could also maybe see a world of Shiro+Titus to be scum together, since scum are not multitasking. One scum roleblocks FA, second scum kills?

Titus -- If scum have a roleblocker, it makes more sense for scum to prioritize killing FA while town still believed there was a false inno on Titus slot from the day 1 roleblock. Titus scum does require setup speccing a scum roleblocker though, since I still feel like scum probably has at least two people in a groupscum PT

[Krazy]

Yeah, I'd allow it.

So I guess now we can wonder whether Alisae would fail to submit a night action for FA TWICE... I mean, it is possible? Alisae can become super disengaged in a game if he's dead in the other one.

Still if we don't assume that FA failed to submit a night action, I would usually think Titus should actually be the lynch here? Shiro makes sense for an FA investigation, Titus does not

[Titus]

If you were following you wouldnt be doing that

I am just following who I think is conftown from this page. I've been sick as a dog and laying low until I get enough for my VCA. I lost the thread of this game ages ago.

Why I'd this a bad idea?

[Krazy]

Because Xtoxm is claiming to have a parity cop guilty between you and Shiro