Role Call I (Game Over)

[callforjudgement]

Saudade is being replaced.

[Almost50]

OK. Thanks. Now, the last question: What role(s) would you personally be totally against getting yourself (aside from CQ obviously)?

[popsofctown]

That guy's replace-out rate is pretty high

[Hidden Happiness]

Hm, I know at least for me I would hate to get inactive or Macho. Macho more then inactive. These are mostly selfish reasons because being a PR is fun but if we did get them it ups our chance of survival/makes our reads more impactful. Also FUCK INNOCENT CHILD I HATE THAT ROLE SO MUCH. I hate when people don't have to read me and try to solve me that takes out like half of the fun for me it's like just waiting for my death on n4 and it's gonna be wifom. I hate IC so fucking much and I don't want it but my partner does and it's just ughhhhhhh
~Maria

[popsofctown]

HH slot can both claim part of the hydra actively desires a role scum would never want, yet plausibly put forth a proposal that does not give themselves that role because the other head doesn't want it. No nonhydra slot could do that and this is why I so quickly /in when I see a no-hydra game in a queue..

[Almost50]

@HH: OK. Thank you very much

Oh, btw.. if you care to ISO me I would say you'll never find me saying I'm scum reading your slot. Someone got momo's promotion of "Titus+HH are scum together" confused for being my view, I think, but that's irrelevant. Thanks a gain for answering my questions.

@Pops: It doesn't matter much what one proposes to give themselves because if the majority are against it then it won't happen. Personally I do understand internal hydra dissonance in most cases, so that's not a big problem for me.

[Almost50]

*again!

[Hidden Happiness]

HH slot can both claim part of the hydra actively desires a role scum would never want, yet plausibly put forth a proposal that does not give themselves that role because the other head doesn't want it. No nonhydra slot could do that and this is why I so quickly /in when I see a no-hydra game in a queue..

It'd take me a moment but I can link you games where I've said I hate being IC
pedit: No problem mr A50.

[popsofctown]

HH slot can both claim part of the hydra actively desires a role scum would never want, yet plausibly put forth a proposal that does not give themselves that role because the other head doesn't want it. No nonhydra slot could do that and this is why I so quickly /in when I see a no-hydra game in a queue..

It'd take me a moment but I can link you games where I've said I hate being IC
pedit: No problem mr A50.

I 100% believe you, that doesn't resolve the issue. Earnest or not your slot is still able to townspew by wanting the IC slot yet not obtain the IC slot. That generates advantage whether your town or scum, maybe even more advantage as town.

In this particular game-state I don't think HHslot has enough control of the game for the hydra edge to matter but it's an annoying hydra edge if it were to actually matter.

Also this is something that would bug me even more if I were scum this game which is why I shouldn't post it but I'm gonna follow my town backspace key rule

[callforjudgement]

pisskop replaces Saudade.

[callforjudgement]

Game status

Failed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

• 1-shot Gladiator
  : momo
  
• Inactive
  : pisskop
  
• Day 5 Innocent Child
  : Oversoul
  
• Inventor
  : popsofctown
  
• Day 3 King
  : Vecna
  
• Macho
  : Lil Uzi Vert
  
• Miller
  : apthet
  
• Odd-Night Motion Detector
  : Gamma Emerald
  
• Neighbour
  : Nero Cain
  
• Neighbour
  : Almost50
  
• Timid
  : Hidden Happiness
  
• Night 1 Universal Backup
  : CheekyTeeky
  
• Vanilla
  : Iconeum
  
• Compulsive Quitter
  : Titus

For

(4): momo, Almost50, Iconeum, pisskop

Against

(7): Hidden Happiness, popsofctown, Nero Cain, Oversoul, Titus, Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna

Not voting

(3): apthet, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

• 1-shot Gladiator
  : Almost50
  
• Inactive
  : pisskop
  
• Day 5 Innocent Child
  : Nero Cain
  
• Inventor
  : Iconeum
  
• Day 3 King
  : momo
  
• Macho
  : CheekyTeeky
  
• Miller
  : Vecna
  
• Odd-Night Motion Detector
  : Lil Uzi Vert
  
• Neighbour
  : popsofctown
  
• Neighbour
  : Gamma Emerald
  
• Timid
  : Hidden Happiness
  
• Night 1 Universal Backup
  : apthet
  
• Vanilla
  : Oversoul
  
• Compulsive Quitter
  : Titus

For

(2): Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert

Against

(7): Titus, Oversoul, Nero Cain, popsofctown, momo, CheekyTeeky, Almost50

Not voting

(5): Iconeum, pisskop, apthet, Gamma Emerald, Hidden Happiness

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

• 1-shot Gladiator
  : Hidden Happiness
  
• Inactive
  : pisskop
  
• Day 5 Innocent Child
  : Gamma Emerald
  
• Inventor
  : popsofctown
  
• Day 3 King
  : momo
  
• Macho
  : CheekyTeeky
  
• Miller
  : Nero Cain
  
• Odd-Night Motion Detector
  : Lil Uzi Vert
  
• Neighbour
  : Oversoul
  
• Neighbour
  : Almost50
  
• Timid
  : Iconeum
  
• Night 1 Universal Backup
  : Vecna
  
• Vanilla
  : apthet
  
• Compulsive Quitter
  : Titus

For

(5): Oversoul, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, momo, Gamma Emerald

Against

(7): Hidden Happiness, Titus, Vecna, Nero Cain, Almost50, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert

Not voting

(2): Iconeum, apthet

Current proposal

(by Lil Uzi Vert):

• 1-shot Gladiator
  : Almost50
  
• Inactive
  : pisskop
  
• Day 5 Innocent Child
  : Oversoul
  
• Inventor
  : popsofctown
  
• Day 3 King
  : apthet
  
• Macho
  : Gamma Emerald
  
• Miller
  : momo
  
• Odd-Night Motion Detector
  : Lil Uzi Vert
  
• Neighbour
  : Titus
  
• Neighbour
  : Vecna
  
• Timid
  : Hidden Happiness
  
• Night 1 Universal Backup
  : Nero Cain
  
• Vanilla
  : Iconeum
  
• Compulsive Quitter
  : CheekyTeeky

For

(4): popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, Oversoul, Titus

Against

(3): Almost50, Gamma Emerald, Hidden Happiness

Not voting

(7): Iconeum, apthet, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, momo, Vecna, Nero Cain

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(10): Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, Oversoul, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Almost50, Gamma Emerald, pisskop, Titus

Proposal unavailable

(4): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Wednesday 24 July (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-07-24 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

CheekyTeeky

(2): popsofctown, pisskop

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

Iconeum

(1): Oversoul

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Saudade replaced out?

[momo]

Cheeky is almost certainly scum. Saying "you're lynching me over people that have content" almost certainly indicates that she's lurking to avoid pressure.

That said making Titus and Vecna neighbors isn't something that I can vote for. Titus is scummy imo and Vecna is already townreading her. I tr Vecna, but I don't want him to be Titus' neighbor. If Titus is a neighbor, the other neighbor must be a someone that will look at her critically that is widely townread. I'd volunteer, but people seem to want to give me miller. If that keeps me alive, it's whatever.

VOTE: against

[popsofctown]

VOTE: against

[Titus]

Cheeky is almost certainly scum. Saying "you're lynching me over people that have content" almost certainly indicates that she's lurking to avoid pressure.

That said making Titus and Vecna neighbors isn't something that I can vote for. Titus is scummy imo and Vecna is already townreading her. I tr Vecna, but I don't want him to be Titus' neighbor. If Titus is a neighbor, the other neighbor must be a someone that will look at her critically that is widely townread. I'd volunteer, but people seem to want to give me miller. If that keeps me alive, it's whatever.

VOTE: against

The last time Vecna and I played together, Vecna and I almost tore each other up. He's fully capable of being critical. This also implies that someone town reading me cannot use critical thinking with me.

Vecna has shown the most critical thinking here. That's why I didn't stop him from sorting Nero although I think he's town.

[pisskop]

Saudade replaced out?

yea but Im here now. So hark! And stand tall; for I am with you in your hour of need.

[Titus]

It's statements and implications like 1187 that ping me as scum. Momo stalls the game, makes it takes longer, shades people playing correctly and tries to control who has influence on me.

I can't legit see town complaining that there's only certain players I should be hooded with if my hood partner is town.

[pisskop]

Oh. Im a town fingerbanger. You vote me powers, I produce a V

[Titus]

I also can't fathom who would pass momo's test

[pisskop]

Can somebody catch me up?

Like on the mechanical level. Who has powers? When did you vote that [post number]?

[Almost50]

I can't legit see town complaining that there's only certain players I should be hooded with if my hood partner is town.

I can. I (and I suspect many others in the game) know how

good

you are at optimizing hoods in your favor as either alignment, so until we are able to sort you with a relatively high degree of certainty we need to either deny you access to the hood or at least make sure your neighbor is someone who is hard for you to pocket and control if you are scum.

[pisskop]

Why am I getting inactive? I guess I could bite that bullet but it seems like half the fun is the

zanny

powers

[Almost50]

Hi Pisskop. You need to ISO FL

[Almost50]

Why am I getting inactive? I guess I could bite that bullet but it seems like half the fun is the

zanny

powers

Vote Against and I will give you something juicy

[pisskop]

Im sure youve already done this, but Im not yet reading. Here are my thoughts:

Spoiler: the rolecall

Here are the roles you get to allocate for Day 1! Each role must be given to one player, and each player must get a role.

Day 1 Role Call

• 1-shot Gladiator
  (
  Day
  ): Once in the game, during the Day when no proposal is being voted on, you may challenge a player via bold post in the game thread ("
  Challenge:

  player
  "). All proposals that day are invalid unless they give the Compulsive Quitter role either to you, or to the player you challenged.
  
• Inactive
  (
  Passive
  ): For the rest of the game, proposals that give you a
  Day
  or
  Night
  action are invalid.
  
• Day 5 Innocent Child
  (
  Passive
  ): If you are Town-aligned, your alignment will be publicly revealed at the start of Day 5.
  
• Inventor
  (
  Night
  ): Once each on four Nights in the game, you may grant a new night action to a player in the game (other than yourself). Each of these actions may be given once:
  
  Spoiler: Inventions

  • 1-shot Bodyguard
    (
    Night
    ,
    Protective
    ): Once in the game at Night, choose a player other than yourself. Any
    Eliminate
    actions aimed at that player will be deflected onto you.
    
  • 1-shot Friendly Neighbour
    (
    Night
    ): Once in the game at Night, choose a player other than yourself. If you are Town-aligned, the moderator will confirm that fact to the chosen player. (If you use this ability when not Town-aligned, it acts as a Visitor, i.e. it targets that player but has no further effect.)
    
  • 1-shot Activated Hero
    (
    Night
    ): Once in the game at Night, you may activate this role. On the following Day only, if an accepted proposal would give you the Compulsive Quitter role, you swap places in that proposal with the player who proposed it (so they end up with the Compulsive Quitter role, and you take the role they gave themself).
    
  • 1-shot Announcing Mailman
    (
    Night
    ): Once in the game at Night, you may send the moderator a message, who will forward it on to a player of your choice. The message will be marked as having come from a Mailman, but the moderator will not confirm who sent it (until after the game).
• Day 3 King
  (
  Passive
  ): On Day 3, no other player will be able to propose; as the last remaining player with a proposal, your proposal will therefore be accepted automatically, without voting.
  
• Macho
  (
  Passive
  ):
  Protective
  roles will fail when used on you.
  
• Miller
  (
  Passive
  ): All other roles will interact with you as though you were Scum, regardless of your actual alignment.
  
• Odd-Night Motion Detector
  (
  Night
  ): Once on each odd-numbered night, you may choose a player, and will learn whether or not there was motion involving that player that night. A player has motion involving them if they use a
  Night
  action, or if a
  Night
  action is used on them, or both.
  
• Neighbour
  (
  Passive
  ): You will gain access to read and post in the Neighbour private topic, and may use it to discuss the game with the other players there.
  
• Neighbour
  (
  Passive
  ): You will gain access to read and post in the Neighbour private topic, and may use it to discuss the game with the other players there.
  
• Timid
  (
  Passive
  ): You cannot make proposals.
  
• Night 1 Universal Backup
  (
  Passive
  ): At the end of Night 1, you will automatically gain the role of the player who was eliminated Night 1.
  
• Vanilla
  (
  Passive
  ): This role doesn't do anything.
  
• Compulsive Quitter
  (
  Twilight
  ): You immediately leave the game and are eliminated.

Game status

There is no active proposal.

• IC is a cop. A very belated rolecall. Give it to a lurker who wont be roped and let them dangle.
  
• Inactive can give you passives, it seems. Like bulletproof, paranoid gun owner, lightning rod, loved, etc. Maybe not PGO, maybe just modifiers.
  
• Inventor can give to inactive. inactive specifies proposals.
  
• King will be a good enough invest imo. We'll see what they do with unlimited power. Rather just give to town.
  
• Give me miller, since lookatmeimsotown.
  
• Actually Id rather have a hood out of that whole list.