Starry Night [Game Over]

[unwnd]

Cephrir feels like town to me, what am I missing?

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

[Firebringer]

no
you're literally playing the setup wrong
You have to be twice as good as randomly lynching for suicide to be an EV play, due to what Kagami pointed out. We design "balanced" setups at like 40% town EV or whatever so obviously people are not twice as good as random lynching. Correct play is basically never suicide unless the lover PT has the biggest scumslip you've ever seen in your career. So since it's a slot you are unable to lynch from your POV you want it to be town, because you definitely don't want to give lynch proof power roles to scum

And I'm concerned that you are at least halfway cognizant of this dynamic and are just that fearful of death-by-wallflower

feels like a scene from a soap opera.

[popsofctown]

i think pops is overacting the concerned townie bit right now. This feels out of place.

Sorry for trying to play mafia instead letting the setup's quasi RVS sprawl as much as possible
Not sorry

[unwnd]

I would stake the pops read if Firebringer ends up being town

..You two should pair

[Cephrir]

no
you're literally playing the setup wrong
You have to be twice as good as randomly lynching for suicide to be an EV play, due to what Kagami pointed out. We design "balanced" setups at like 40% town EV or whatever so obviously people are not twice as good as random lynching. Correct play is basically never suicide unless the lover PT has the biggest scumslip you've ever seen in your career. So since it's a slot you are unable to lynch from your POV you want it to be town, because you definitely don't want to give lynch proof power roles to scum

And I'm concerned that you are at least halfway cognizant of this dynamic and are just that fearful of death-by-wallflower

everyone will have a pt with their partner and it's their responsibility to try to use that to divine their partner's alignment. i feel that will be valuable.

also, in 4p endgame someone has to suicide.

[Cephrir]

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

i realize im not qualified to be the person to tell you this but you've just identified that i am still cephrir and have not been replaced with a doppelganger

[popsofctown]

Yes 4p endgame is a special case but it's the exception that proves the rule.

The PT is mildly useful for how its dayplay mechanics might be different but it has no mechanical power whatsoever

[Firebringer]

everyone is acting like pops is normal rn which bothers me because yes this kind of speaking about correct play isn't abnormal but the way it is done is clearly an act that I shouldn't be the only one who notices.

but okay, i am going back to shit posting.

[unwnd]

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

i realize im not qualified to be the person to tell you this but you've just identified that i am still cephrir and have not been replaced with a doppelganger

It just seems a bit contradicting yknow? I'm not sure how you would to represent yourself, unless you are saying you try to do both

[Cephrir]

i dont think its unreasonable to want a pt with someone you work well with especially if that will make the game more fun for you which in turn leads to stronger engagement with said game

[OkaPoka]

I want a good dance partner for PT posting

Who says I wouldn't use the PT?

that was @kagami if she is going to do matchmaking for me

you'd check like 90% of my boxes for a dance partner

[Gamma Emerald]

@Fire

Subject: Gamma Emerald - Firebringer

Will didn't know what to do or say as he stared into his fathers now shut eyes.

Posted at 2:27 Nov 13 2018

Subject: Witches' Halloween Ball [Game Over]

I believe in you!

I am leaving the dance. Gamma ruined my story

If I lost the game, I blame RC.

Posted the same day at 2:58, a half hour later. Had you given me time to check I would have responded, I had expressed earlier in second dance I was concerned about you not posting during intermission. That was because I wanted you to continue the story.

[Dunnstral]

Cephrir feels like town to me, what am I missing?

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

OK, this is a good response

I am uncertain if that makes him scum or if he plays like this as town

[Firebringer]

gamma i remember u being very slow on the story posting.

also i am not taking any responsibility for messing up the story

[Cephrir]

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

i realize im not qualified to be the person to tell you this but you've just identified that i am still cephrir and have not been replaced with a doppelganger

It just seems a bit contradicting yknow? I'm not sure how you would to represent yourself, unless you are saying you try to do both

ill break it down for you

im dismissive of my own decisions. i am a low confidence wishy washy person. confidence is legitimately such a good meta scumtell on me that i have to fake this demeanor as scum and have been caught by slipping it up. ive previously made an alt where i pretended to be more confident than i actually felt as town, and admittedly i scumhunted more successfully but i felt like i was lying in every post

i sometimes drop points and get bored with them, i am a bit erratic. sometimes i will make posts for absolutely no reason purely to share my thoughts with the thread. it's just me being me!

and i'm trying to win but i'm more here to have a good time than to prove i'm the very best like no one ever was. i already know that i'm not particularly good at this game, i'm just here because it's something to do.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dunn is very likely to pair with Maria

Nah, we're not doing that anymore since it stopped being special

Good to know
Btw I'm eating dinner now so I may be a bit quiet rn

[Firebringer]

CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OkaPoka]

You get a private pt as soon as you get a dance partner correct?

[Firebringer]

ya

[FakeGod]

You get a private pt as soon as you get a dance partner correct?

You get one when First Dance starts. (when everyone paired up)

[OkaPoka]

You get a private pt as soon as you get a dance partner correct?

You get one when First Dance starts. (when everyone paired up)

Thanks

[Gamma Emerald]

everyone is acting like pops is normal rn which bothers me because yes this kind of speaking about correct play isn't abnormal but the way it is done is clearly an act that I shouldn't be the only one who notices.

but okay, i am going back to shit posting.

I kinda agree with you on this because I don't recall pops being like this in a previous Open we played together

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma i remember u being very slow on the story posting.

also i am not taking any responsibility for messing up the story

Dude, you didn't post the next sentence for like 2 days, I may have been slow but you took the cake on slow there

[Ankamius]

I have a bad feeling that any slots I'm going to be willing to pair with are going to be the same slots that are going to be in highest demand

[unwnd]

Alright still nothing has synced with me yet, I've dusted myself off and a bit hungover so I'm gonna go pretend to be using the "bathroom" but instead of the bathroom it's just me crying alone in the stall because nobody wants to dance with me