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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:42 am

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In post 1438, Vecna wrote:
In post 1415, pisskop wrote:Its just a space filler, imo
Itll stop us from giving that person a strong pr on a day we get a protective, or after the bodyguard item has been given out though.


I have a suspicion itll be relevant
After thinking about it more, the mafia rolestop ability makes protective roles almost pointless.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:44 am

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In post 1445, Nero Cain wrote:1-shot Gladiator: apthet
Inactive: Vecna
Day 5 Innocent Child: CheekyTeeky
Inventor: Gamma Emerald
Day 3 King: pisskop
Macho: popsofctown
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Neighbour: Titus
Neighbour: Lil Uzi Vert
Timid: Almost50
Night 1 Universal Backup: Nero Cain
Vanilla: momo
Compulsive Quitter: Iconeum

huh?
In post 1447, Vecna wrote:I dont like the negative utility on me and pops. giving the two of us neighbours is a better fit with more options for later days.

Id be even willing to swallow an icon lynch, although hes not.my prefered option.
Agree. Give Titus the inactive and LUV Macho and I would support that.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:48 am

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GM: does rolestopping a person also prevent the nightkill?
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:51 am

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In post 1452, Vecna wrote:
GM: does rolestopping a person also prevent the nightkill?
In post 1, callforjudgement wrote:Rolestop (Night, Factional). Choose a player. All other actions targeting that player, except for Eliminate, will fail. Unlike most night actions, you may target this at yourself if you wish.

Please read. Dont do that.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:52 am

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the OP links to the wiki which states only variations of a rolestopper wont stop kills, so im pretty sure scum cannot use their rolestop to circumvent protectives
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:53 am

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In post 1453, pisskop wrote:All other actions targeting that player, except for Eliminate,
Im pretty sure you need to read
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:54 am

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Everything. Except for the explicit factional kill, named 'eliminate'

Everything. Except. The. Kill
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:59 am

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Ehm ok. Not used to additional setup info being hidden under the role pm spoilers
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:59 am

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If I was a betting man I would say that CFJ is gonna have like a day of protective roles and then a day of investigative roles with one or two tweaks between them.
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:01 am

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queue the whiners stating I just faked a townslip
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:02 am

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Not faked a townslip.

It wasnt a potential townslip
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:02 am

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I dont think it is AI for anyone.
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:02 am

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In post 1429, Hidden Happiness wrote:But please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I've scumread you correctly a most of the time when we've been TvS with me as the T.
That's misleading. When you SR me ALL THE TIME then you will always "correctly SR me when I'm scum and you're Town". It's not because you CAN read me. It's because you will always SR me regardless, so when I'm scum you'd be correct (that's 30% of the time in average).

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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:04 am

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In post 1460, pisskop wrote:Not faked a townslip.

It wasnt a potential townslip
the information you quoted is literally from the scum role pm is my point (and hidden behind a spoiler in the op).
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:04 am

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again. It wasnt a viable townslip
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:09 am

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:mad:

i want my townslip
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 1429, Hidden Happiness wrote:I don't know if you'd take it this far as scum though
Tbh, I might. But then the tone will probably give me away. Anyone who is good at tone reading can tell this is not an act as I'm genuinely pissed here.

But OK. Nero voted against, so I'm less confident this is the way to go. If it turns out to be the right call in the end I can always tease him about it for the next few games. :twisted:

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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:10 am

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lol.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:23 am

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In post 1466, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1429, Hidden Happiness wrote:I don't know if you'd take it this far as scum though
Tbh, I might. But then the tone will probably give me away. Anyone who is good at tone reading can tell this is not an act as I'm genuinely pissed here.

But OK. Nero voted against, so I'm less confident this is the way to go. If it turns out to be the right call in the end I can always tease him about it for the next few games. :twisted:
care to respond to my post regarding nero?
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:33 am

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No. You ask a lot and give little in return. I happen to know it's how you play so no -ve points given, but I don't care to respond on why I TR Nero so hard.

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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:34 am

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Besides, it won't change a thing for you. You and I both know that. You will try to lynch him regardless, and if given a Vig shot you're still going to shoot him.

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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:44 am

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Thats just disingenuous. Ive not made a single attempt to lynch him so far, and whenever I make an attempt to sort either of you, mend fences or just try to have a dialogue, I am met with hostile statements.

You clearly dont think im scum, so why given the opportunity dont you even attempt a little to change my mind if you have good reasons to think im so wrong?

I really dont get it
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:21 am

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Mate, it is not easy to quote certain stiff from Nero to call him town. That's not how it works. It's how he posts, and the general way he approaches the game that enables me to read him. In this game he clearly does not have a scum agenda. He's not being cautious or fictitious or even overly survivalistic. There's nothing that scum!Nero gains from playing the way he is playing this game.

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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:57 am

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In post 1451, Oversoul wrote:
In post 1445, Nero Cain wrote:1-shot Gladiator: apthet
Inactive: Vecna
Day 5 Innocent Child: CheekyTeeky
Inventor: Gamma Emerald
Day 3 King: pisskop
Macho: popsofctown
Miller: Oversoul
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Hidden Happiness
Neighbour: Titus
Neighbour: Lil Uzi Vert
Timid: Almost50
Night 1 Universal Backup: Nero Cain
Vanilla: momo
Compulsive Quitter: Iconeum

huh?
In post 1447, Vecna wrote:I dont like the negative utility on me and pops. giving the two of us neighbours is a better fit with more options for later days.

Id be even willing to swallow an icon lynch, although hes not.my prefered option.
Agree. Give Titus the inactive and LUV Macho and I would support that.
Don't give pops Macho. :roll: I'd agree with these mods but I'd prefer Titus stay as a neighbour since people want to sort her that way.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:59 am

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Also arguing protective roles are useless so Macho doesn't matter is like arguing roles don't matter so everyone should stay vanilla, scum can't block everything. - Shadoweh
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