Starry Night [Game Over]

[Firebringer]

I was outlining why thinking MariaR and I being SvS is just dumb

i agree

[SXTLHGaiden]

no mine make perfect sense

@gaiden do you have any reads right now

before anyone says anything about me not answering this. i forgot this question existed until right now
now onto Gaiden reads:

[Kagami]

what happened between 1545 and 2022, GR?

shiro dropped down to leaning scum nothing else has changed

dun/creature still my strongest townread and fb had a town reaction to his wagon but partnered up with scum!shiro

Why did FB move out of townlean between then and 2475

[Golden Robster]

what happened between 1545 and 2022, GR?

shiro dropped down to leaning scum nothing else has changed

dun/creature still my strongest townread and fb had a town reaction to his wagon but partnered up with scum!shiro

Why did FB move out of townlean between then and 2475

he didnt i forgot to color him in

DeasVail

- Cephrir

Kagami

- SXTLHGaiden

Ankamius

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MariaR

Firebringer

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Shiro

OkaPoka

- Gamma Emerald

Dunnstral

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Bitmap

unwnd

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popsofctown

Golden Robster

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Creature

[SXTLHGaiden]

so, how would you rate FB vs GE in terms of town usefulness?

[Firebringer]

how do u rate ur town usefulness gaiden?

[SXTLHGaiden]

low to nothing

[SXTLHGaiden]

i mean, i'm the most useful
like the best townie ever

[Firebringer]

so do you think town usefulness is an important factor for anything here?

[SXTLHGaiden]

perhaps.

[Firebringer]

ehh maybe i should just not try to read u. might be wasted effort considering u and kagami linked.

[Ankamius]

gaiden is town tho

[SXTLHGaiden]

ehh maybe i should just not try to read u. might be wasted effort considering u and kagami linked.

if you try to read me too hard, you'll end up going mad.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Kagami I talked with Oka and he told me he didn't really agree with my take at this point so I'll just state it and then write up my read list
I feel like Dunnstral actually makes more sense as scum in the Dunn + Bitmap pairing. My logic is as follows.
Alisae is getting widely townread and the general consensus is e should pair with Dunnstral. Meanwhile Bitmap and Dunnstral have interactions that would make sense for leading up to a pairing but if that doesn't happen Bitmap is kinda up shit creek. So Dunn takes a chance that Bitmap will accept as a way to throw Alisae out of the game early as e wasn't feeling any of the other possible partners at that point. Now this doesn't guarantee Bitmap is town but it makes more sense than Dunn town and Bitmap scum to me because of how the pairing felt. Had it been the other way I'd expect to have things happen in a way to where I'm like "that was sketchy from Bitmap" but it's a deep-seated concern about the fact that pairing happened at all.
And I mentioned Oka isn't on board now but when we first talked about it he kinda agreed on some points so I feel good about it since we both saw those things initially

[Firebringer]

gaiden is town tho

ur avatar and posting makes me think ur constantly about to fall asleep.

[Cephrir]

@gamma why would dunn do that? is he so afraid of alisae that he'd decrease his own survivability just to get rid of em?

[Ankamius]

gaiden is town tho

ur avatar and posting makes me think ur constantly about to fall asleep.

are you sure I'm not

[Firebringer]

i don't think scum!dunny pairs with bitmap over alisae. Is that a good point towards town!dunny?

@gamma did u read my point about how dun plays scum and how he isn't playing like that?

[popsofctown]

scum!dunn would pair with me or Ali, both more widely townread players than Bitmap who is a vanity townread. For scums a widely townread player is even more useful dancing with you than that player is dead. If there's scum in the dunn/bitmap pairing it's because the reasons bitmap has been getting widely scumread are right

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma why would dunn do that? is he so afraid of alisae that he'd decrease his own survivability just to get rid of em?

1) Yes I think is that afraid of Alisae
2) part of my logic is that he knew the groundwork was there with Bitmap so neither of them should look particularly out-of-place making that pairing.

[Ankamius]

technically it's possible that a scum!dunn picked bitmap to maintain the status quo of general reads instead of having bitmap flip town and forcing a bunch of people to rethink their reads

[Gamma Emerald]

i don't think scum!dunny pairs with bitmap over alisae. Is that a good point towards town!dunny?

@gamma did u read my point about how dun plays scum and how he isn't playing like that?

I personally agree with your analysis of Dunn's scum play but don't see how this isn't it

[popsofctown]

idk that's actually what town!dunn should do too. But it's general survivalism tell stuff both townies and scums should be trying to survive but it's more closely linked to wincon for scums.

if Ali has a history of being hard to pocket then that makes your theory work I guess

[Gamma Emerald]

technically it's possible that a scum!dunn picked bitmap to maintain the status quo of general reads instead of having bitmap flip town and forcing a bunch of people to rethink their reads

This was what Oka proposed that really made me confident in this btw

[popsofctown]

technically it's possible that a scum!dunn picked bitmap to maintain the status quo of general reads instead of having bitmap flip town and forcing a bunch of people to rethink their reads

Ankamius you promised the spicy takes would stay in your lover PT I don't have a glass of water nearby