Starry Night [Game Over]

[Ankamius]

oh right

I'll be in my neighborhood

[popsofctown]

that's pretty 5d chess kinda cool

[Firebringer]

i don't think scum!dunny pairs with bitmap over alisae. Is that a good point towards town!dunny?

@gamma did u read my point about how dun plays scum and how he isn't playing like that?

I personally agree with your analysis of Dunn's scum play but don't see how this isn't it

why

[Gamma Emerald]

Like I don't see how anything they've done so far really breaks any sort of mold

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.3

DeasVail - Cephrir [1] - Ankamius
Kagami - SXTLHGaiden [0] -
Ankamius - MariaR [2] - OkaPoka, Bitmap
Firebringer - Shiro [4] - Cephrir, Creature, Dunnstral, Golden Robster
OkaPoka - Gamma Emerald [3] - unwnd, popsofctown, Kagami
Dunnstral - Bitmap [2] - MariaR, Firebringer
unwnd - popsofctown [0] -
Golden Robster - Creature [0] -

Not Voting [4]

- SXTLHGaiden, DeasVail, Gamma Emerald, Shiro

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-07-22 16:00:00)

[Gamma Emerald]

Kagami
Ank
Oka
MariaR
Bitmap
Cephrir
Creature
pops
Fire
Shiro
Gaiden
unwnd
DV
GRob
Dunn

These are my reads rn, the middle of the list (Cephrir to unwnd) isn't super confident but that's how I feel about them rn.
VOTE: Dunnstral

[Ankamius]

I'm your strongest townread???????

[Cephrir]

gamma i think ur insane but i admire the spunk

[Gamma Emerald]

After you said the same thing Oka said you're about the same level
So you two could be reversible but you've also been more active and driven overall

[SXTLHGaiden]

Kagami
Ank
Oka
MariaR
Bitmap
Cephrir
Creature
pops
Fire
Shiro
Gaiden
unwnd
DV
GRob
Dunn

These are my reads rn, the middle of the list (Cephrir to unwnd) isn't super confident but that's how I feel about them rn.
VOTE: Dunnstral

i don't know why, but i find it really comforting to see myself this close to the bottom.
unrelated, did you know if you highlight something then click the "quote" button, you only quote the highlighted portion? I somehow only learned this just now.

[Bitmap]

I'm starting to suspect that out of the Ank/MariaR pairing, that if anything, MariaR is scum. They just push easy players.

Who is Maria pushing?

Me, you, and Shiro/Fire I believe?

[Bitmap]

I was outlining why thinking MariaR and I being SvS is just dumb

There's like no way both of you are scum. Has to be one at most. And if there's scum, it's probably MariaR.

Can u quote and analyze the posts that are scummy for me?

I need MariaR to post more because it's linked with a weird theory that just got brought up.

[Gamma Emerald]

unrelated, did you know if you highlight something then click the "quote" button, you only quote the highlighted portion? I somehow only learned this just now.

Yup. I actually decided to mobile-test it and it works on my phone so I was about to say "only on desktop" but that was

wrong

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[Bitmap]

@Kagami I talked with Oka and he told me he didn't really agree with my take at this point so I'll just state it and then write up my read list
I feel like Dunnstral actually makes more sense as scum in the Dunn + Bitmap pairing. My logic is as follows.
Alisae is getting widely townread and the general consensus is e should pair with Dunnstral. Meanwhile Bitmap and Dunnstral have interactions that would make sense for leading up to a pairing but if that doesn't happen Bitmap is kinda up shit creek. So Dunn takes a chance that Bitmap will accept as a way to throw Alisae out of the game early as e wasn't feeling any of the other possible partners at that point. Now this doesn't guarantee Bitmap is town but it makes more sense than Dunn town and Bitmap scum to me because of how the pairing felt. Had it been the other way I'd expect to have things happen in a way to where I'm like "that was sketchy from Bitmap" but it's a deep-seated concern about the fact that pairing happened at all.
And I mentioned Oka isn't on board now but when we first talked about it he kinda agreed on some points so I feel good about it since we both saw those things initially

I think this ties with my push towards Dunn to "hey im ur townread so i better get an invite" and looking at the first dance, a lot of suspicion just dropped from me.

I'd follow this plan but I want a MariaR flip. That's the only way I would follow this conspiracy.

[Bitmap]

Also Gamma is town.

[Bitmap]

Like the problem is, what benefit does Dunn get with pairing with me then if he's scum?

[popsofctown]

I don't get what benefit Dunn gets from pairing with you if he's protoss

[Kagami]

what happened between 1545 and 2022, GR?

shiro dropped down to leaning scum nothing else has changed

dun/creature still my strongest townread and fb had a town reaction to his wagon but partnered up with scum!shiro

Why did FB move out of townlean between then and 2475

he didnt i forgot to color him in

DeasVail

- Cephrir

Kagami

- SXTLHGaiden

Ankamius

-

MariaR

Firebringer

-

Shiro

OkaPoka

- Gamma Emerald

Dunnstral

-

Bitmap

unwnd

-

popsofctown

Golden Robster

-

Creature

Then isn't Oka-GE the correct vote?

[MariaR]

I would consider Ank/MariaR but I don't think my partner would consider that the best.

I think Ank is more likely to be town than Maria, who I am neutral about

When are you just going to admit you can’t read me instead of saying you have me as ‘neutral’

btw

I'm pretty sure I've figured out scum's strategy this game

Cool, what is it

I'll discuss it in my neighborhood

because it almost entirely precludes mariar being scum if it's true

Ooh la la~

Is there anything in particular that makes you think they're not scum, bitmap?

Sometimes the easy lynch players do roll scum

Just because someone is easy to lynch/considered lynch bait doesn’t mean they can’t be scum. It means legit nothing.

VOTE: unwnd

Oh dear we do need to talk I see

DeasVail - Cephrir

Kagami

- SXTLHGaiden

Ankamius

- MariaR
Firebringer - Shiro
OkaPoka -

Gamma Emerald

Dunnstral - Bitmap
unwnd - popsofctown

Golden Robster

- Creature

I hate to say this but if Dunn ends up being a townie I'm pretty sure Maria is playing you and not the other way around.

Go on...

Maria's hard to pin, I've paranoia'd her as town plenty of times but I feel when I do that she eventually makes a good decision and I stop worrying about it. The problem I have is that based on this fact alone--I don't think Maria has been making any decisions at all. When I made my hierarchy, I thought Ank's process of choosing Maria was fluent, felt like a townie process, but I'm pretty sure scum!Maria jumps on this regardless of the intent of the other person. I remember Maria say she's looking for me but never alluded to the fact why she denied me in the first place, and maybe my opinion is biased but I feel she'd try a bit harder to solve me (and to an extent, you) at this juncture, but most of the time just feels like a bit of a front.

Okay let’s break this down.

I don't think Maria has been making any decisions at all

What? I feel I've been pretty transparent in my choices and reads this game so I have no idea where you're coming from with this logic. I don't know what kind of 'choices' you don't think I've done. Sure I've hid a few details that I put in my PT. I guess the only real thing I didn't have to make was my dance partner because when I got back I had 2 people wanting to dance with me (well 3) I also explained why I didn't want to dance with you when I think we both know scum me can dance with you and have almost no problems

I remember Maria say she's looking for me but never alluded to the fact why she denied me in the first place

Yes I did. I told you because a PT with us would be boring and I don't need a neighborhood to read you.

and maybe my opinion is biased but I feel she'd try a bit harder to solve me

I don't need to try harder to solve you when I'm already confident on my read with you. Sorry you're just that easy to read for me.

[Ankamius]

uh oh am I about to be smacked

[Gamma Emerald]

@Kagami I talked with Oka and he told me he didn't really agree with my take at this point so I'll just state it and then write up my read list
I feel like Dunnstral actually makes more sense as scum in the Dunn + Bitmap pairing. My logic is as follows.
Alisae is getting widely townread and the general consensus is e should pair with Dunnstral. Meanwhile Bitmap and Dunnstral have interactions that would make sense for leading up to a pairing but if that doesn't happen Bitmap is kinda up shit creek. So Dunn takes a chance that Bitmap will accept as a way to throw Alisae out of the game early as e wasn't feeling any of the other possible partners at that point. Now this doesn't guarantee Bitmap is town but it makes more sense than Dunn town and Bitmap scum to me because of how the pairing felt. Had it been the other way I'd expect to have things happen in a way to where I'm like "that was sketchy from Bitmap" but it's a deep-seated concern about the fact that pairing happened at all.
And I mentioned Oka isn't on board now but when we first talked about it he kinda agreed on some points so I feel good about it since we both saw those things initially

I think this ties with my push towards Dunn to "hey im ur townread so i better get an invite" and looking at the first dance, a lot of suspicion just dropped from me.

I'd follow this plan but I want a MariaR flip. That's the only way I would follow this conspiracy.

I honestly kinda agree Maria is shady by her play around Dunn but I think Ank is town so I'll entertain the idea but I won't make any promises

[Gamma Emerald]

@Kagami I didn't post a case and read list for you to just ignore it, especially when it's your request that prompted it

[Kagami]

Kagami
Ank
Oka
MariaR
Bitmap
Cephrir
Creature
pops
Fire
Shiro
Gaiden
unwnd
DV
GRob
Dunn

These are my reads rn, the middle of the list (Cephrir to unwnd) isn't super confident but that's how I feel about them rn.
VOTE: Dunnstral

GRob-Creature seems a lot better than Dunn-Maria here. Fire-Shiro is arguably also pretty good.

[Kagami]

O hush, there are a lot of posts to read.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Ceph/DV

I'm going to park my vote here.

By “park” do you mean that you are intending to keep it here for some time or is it more along the lines of “put my vote here”?

The fact this is what you choose to comment on is really sus considering the events that happened around that time.

Fire-Shiro won't be any more readable with 2 pairs alive than they are now

Well that is a flat out lie. We are both very readable after a certain point.

From your own point of view maybe. But to others you’re clearly very hard to read. Just because you think you can read fire well and vice versa doesn’t mean the rest of the thread can.

and you think scum me goes for that?

u should have danced with Alisae, dunny.

They didn't seem town to me until the point where it was too late for them to get a pairing (I proposed then Golden Rob proposed) - I had mixed feelings before that point, I was liking the content Bitmap was putting in the thread

and you think scum me goes for that?

Pushing Bitmap? Yeah

I should just have a post on my notepad that says ‘just because a lynch is easy doesn’t mean it isn’t on scum.’ You people seem to forget it’s 3 scum. If we all find certain slots scummy we should lynch them. The ‘path of this is easy’ doesn’t mean it’s AI

The dramatic shift in tone is looking back at Rvs and his opening posts though. They were different, I don't think that makes them scummy... why is "dramatic shift in tone" a reason to scumread someone, in the first place?

I doubt he doesn't think before making potentially controversial statements as scum

Tone shift isn’t AI. The way Bit tried to show who they are to the public is. ‘You’re voting lynchbait!’ ‘Defend me.’ ‘My play is super bad lol’ Bit focused so much on themselves and not finding scum while giving no real good solid reads besides a TR on you until they were forced to give them