Starry Night [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

@DeasRir what is in your PT rn? Obviously paraphrase

[Bitmap]

I take back my conspiracy theory about Dunn-Mariar possible scum team after reading the last two pages.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma one thing you need to know about Dunn is how extremely stubborn and easily blind he is. He kept on questioning on why people were lynching him/why he should die when he paired with Bitmap when over half the game expressed interest in the slots death. If you want to play around Dunn you need to show him why he's being stubborn/wrong or he won't listen.

I am arguing against Dunn, not with Dunn. As such my aim isn't to convince Dunn of anything but counter his logic.

So no matter what I say, you're going to try to counter it?

If I have something already in mind yes. If I don't have a response in mind I'll check on the point.

[MariaR]

So everyone can see the way Maria suddenly changed her tune around me and how suddenly I can be scum, right?

What was her read on me in post ~400, again?

Never called you scum. But the fact you're bringing up post 400 when we're at post 2700 is something else.

[unwnd]

I guess something I'm wondering is why you think Dunn isn't just chasing a fake bad read on you Maria

I recall your reasoning being why he paired up with Bitmap but dunno if that's been updated cause it seems like you've been openly against the slot

[unwnd]

Recall your reasoning for him being town*

[Cephrir]

unfortunately my reasoning will be handwaved as "scum can magically persuade anyone they are town in a pt" and i'll admit that's true a lot of the time, but he's hitting the right notes for me in terms of the way he's approached me. there's been a pretty believable trajectory that hits some right emotional notes and some posts that would be pretty difficult to make as scum - not impossible, but i think it'd be tough to make them without overanalyzing the wording so much you ultimately post something robotic

this post might as well be blank in terms of being useful to anyone else, but it's good enough for me, at least for now

[MariaR]

I guess something I'm wondering is why you think Dunn isn't just chasing a fake bad read on you Maria

I recall your reasoning being why he paired up with Bitmap but dunno if that's been updated cause it seems like you've been openly against the slot

I think Dunn scum never pairs up with Bit there because it's kinda just stupid for him to do so and I don't see why he'd take that risk. I think it's pretty clear why Bitmap is scum though. I also feel like I've explained it in detail too.

[Dunnstral]

hi dunn~

Hi

I'm townreading Bitmap and might send an invitation there

And what makes you townread them?

@ank what i mostly meant is that i don't think most players give a flying fuck about deadtown reads even if they're nightkilled (they should, but they don't, and it is hard to account for & weigh against your own opinions)

Preach, if people looked at dead towns reads they’d have a much higher winrate. It’s why scum can just kill X with almost no downside in this game type.

I don't think that's enough to townread dunn

Don’t worry, I’ll have a read on Dunn before the game is over and it’ll be fine. (In fact I’m already in the lean of one)

Dunn is very likely to pair with Maria

Nah, we're not doing that anymore since it stopped being special

^
Me and Dunn being in a neighborhood is boring since we shouldn’t need a PT to be able to read each other it’s pretty sub-optimal.

Cephrir feels like town to me, what am I missing?

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

If this was anyone but you I swear...

This feels pretty LAMIST. I don’t like this reaction, I would’ve townread it if he just said yes to the dance, but this is just blah.

don't you always hate my guts anyway? just start now! :D

Don't worry the only thing I hate in life is my personality

If this was anyone but you I swear...

Loool what does this mean

Quiet you I'm gonna tug on your ear again.

@Maria

what do you think of Dunn so far?

I plan on telling my partner my exact reads and all that. Since Dunn is going to get a partner it's better to let people form opinions before they get influenced by my own.

@Maria

what do you think of Dunn so far?

I plan on telling my partner my exact reads and all that. Since Dunn is going to get a partner it's better to let people form opinions before they get influenced by my own.

I don't care what others think I care what you think

That's the exact reason I'm holding off I'm giving my Dunn read.
If I told people with extreme confidence what my Dunn read was atm they'd probably listen to me given everyone knows I can read Dunn better then pretty much anyone on the site.
Pedit: The avatar is supposed to be more monotone/on the lazy side. I'm using this one for reasons

@Ankamius

I'm interested in knowing what Maria's read here was

[Dunnstral]

unfortunately my reasoning will be handwaved as "scum can magically persuade anyone they are town in a pt" and i'll admit that's true a lot of the time, but he's hitting the right notes for me in terms of the way he's approached me. there's been a pretty believable trajectory that hits some right emotional notes and some posts that would be pretty difficult to make as scum - not impossible, but i think it'd be tough to make them without overanalyzing the wording so much you ultimately post something robotic

this post might as well be blank in terms of being useful to anyone else, but it's good enough for me, at least for now

That sounds good to me actually

[Cephrir]

@DeasRir what is in your PT rn? Obviously paraphrase

Words, words, words.

[MariaR]

Dunn you're quoting post 500 stop acting like reads can't change/ delvelop over 2000 posts you're better then that.

[SXTLHGaiden]

@DeasRir

I accept this as the official ship name.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not acting like reads can't change.

Can you explain what your read was by post 500, though? What was your read in the past?

[SXTLHGaiden]

Dunn you're quoting post 500 stop acting like reads can't change/ delvelop over 2000 posts you're better then that.

granted, only like 200 of those 2k posts have content.

[popsofctown]

Dunn you're quoting post 500 stop acting like reads can't change/ delvelop over 2000 posts you're better then that.

granted, only like 200 of those 2k posts have content.

unexpected mouthpiece for this viewpoint

[MariaR]

I'm not acting like reads can't change.

Can you explain what your read was by post 500, though? What was your read in the past?

This isn't a relevent question and you know it.

[SXTLHGaiden]

i just calls it like i sees it

[Bitmap]

I looked into the town play from MariaR in Witches' Halloween Ball.

I don't see it here.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not acting like reads can't change.

Can you explain what your read was by post 500, though? What was your read in the past?

This isn't a relevent question and you know it.

I don't care, i want to know the answer. Why won't you explain what you were thinking?

[Gamma Emerald]

unfortunately my reasoning will be handwaved as "scum can magically persuade anyone they are town in a pt" and i'll admit that's true a lot of the time, but he's hitting the right notes for me in terms of the way he's approached me. there's been a pretty believable trajectory that hits some right emotional notes and some posts that would be pretty difficult to make as scum - not impossible, but i think it'd be tough to make them without overanalyzing the wording so much you ultimately post something robotic

this post might as well be blank in terms of being useful to anyone else, but it's good enough for me, at least for now

This is why I asked for a PT summary

[Dunnstral]

Why do you go out of your way to find reasons not to answer what your read at the time was?

[MariaR]

I'm not acting like reads can't change.

Can you explain what your read was by post 500, though? What was your read in the past?

This isn't a relevent question and you know it.

I don't care, i want to know the answer. Why won't you explain what you were thinking?

Why don't you go do what I asked first and then I'll answer. Otherwise, you can keep your vote on me.

[MariaR]

Why do you act like me not answering is AI when you know I can fake a read on you in less then 10 seconds and you'd believe it.

[Bitmap]

Mariar in Witches' Halloween Ball:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=28247

Very pushy, even when pressured.

This game:

"Hah, you think you can even touch lynching me?" attitude.

Mostly gut reads that there's a discrepancy here.