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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:03 pm

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Game statusFailed proposals:
Spoiler: momo's proposal
For
(4): momo, Almost50, Iconeum, pisskop
Against
(7): Hidden Happiness, popsofctown, Nero Cain, Oversoul, Titus, Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna
Not voting
(3): apthet, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald
Spoiler: Vecna's proposal
For
(2): Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert
Against
(7): Titus, Oversoul, Nero Cain, popsofctown, momo, CheekyTeeky, Almost50
Not voting
(5): Iconeum, pisskop, apthet, Gamma Emerald, Hidden Happiness
Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal
For
(5): Oversoul, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, momo, Gamma Emerald
Against
(7): Hidden Happiness, Titus, Vecna, Nero Cain, Almost50, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert
Not voting
(2): Iconeum, apthet
Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal
For
(2): Lil Uzi Vert, Titus
Against
(7): Almost50, Hidden Happiness, popsofctown, momo, Nero Cain, Oversoul, Vecna
Not voting
(5): Iconeum, apthet, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald
Spoiler: Almost50's proposal
For
(2): Almost50, Gamma Emerald
Against
(7): popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, Hidden Happiness, Oversoul, Nero Cain, Vecna, momo
Not voting
(5): Iconeum, apthet, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, Titus
There is no current proposal.



Proposal available
(9): Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, Oversoul, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, pisskop, Titus
Proposal unavailable
(5): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, Almost50

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Saturday 27 July (
automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-07-27 00:05:00)
). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count
Iconeum
(1): Oversoul
CheekyTeeky
(1): popsofctown
Hidden Happiness
(1): Iconeum
Vecna
(1): Hidden Happiness
momo
(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:05 pm

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Lil Uzi Vert has been prodded.
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:11 pm

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tfw the mod is the most active player
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:19 pm

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Catch up wall in the spoiler
Spoiler:
In post 1281, pisskop wrote:
In post 980, Titus wrote:
In post 977, Iconeum wrote:A50 should never be the lynch here. Why let HH live for so long? Titus just vanilla?
So much wrong here

A50 is obvscum, so why not lynch?
HH is town so why not have him live.
What's wrong with being vanilla? It appeases the Titus sucks crowd while keeping town me alive.
Think titus is townish here
Posting this first, my reads have changed quite a bit. I like how pisskop calls me out on this read
In post 1300, pisskop wrote:
In post 1193, Titus wrote:I also can't fathom who would pass momo's test
I will say this one time for your benefit.


If you are town!titus, you should consider ignoring a tunneling momo? Do you SR momo? If you do not then why arent you reasoning with them? if you do then why are you giving them more power by sitting by and flaccidly defending yourself?

Like I believe its your personality to get hung up on some things, like an unreasonable SR on your slot, but I think its time to let them dangle in the wind.
Scum has no benefit for intervening here. This is a town post.
In post 1333, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1257, pisskop wrote:
In post 142, Almost50 wrote:
In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:
@Mod how would a Timid King work?


I'm probably going to have a lot of mech questions throughout the game
Interesting question!
ORRRR its pretty shit because we cant give the same slot 2 roles.
Hey Mod
: what if the sky was green, and the clouds were purple? What if walking through the arboretum felt like walking through a jungle, like that one acid trip I had in college? Wouldn't that be nice?
You know you could stop acting like a child and try using that organ inside that skull above your neck.

I/we know we can't give the same person 2 roles TODAY, but what if there is a role tomorrow that has a similar effect? Timid doesn't go with king and IC doesm't go with Miller.. etc. Apparently we get a new/different list of roles each day BUT there are roles that WILL appear again (one example is the Compulsive Quitter). Now what's wrong in asking and knowing in advance what how the mod planned to handle such situations just in case?
Arguing instead of solving. Scumlean on A50.
In post 1349, popsofctown wrote:1348 seems like a scummy post
Since it benefit Vecna to be good at reading Saudade now that Saudade is gone
Unless Vecna is thinking about the next time he plays with Saudade
But uh that's not something most people wanna spend time thinking about
I like the sorting that pops has going on.
In post 1376, Almost50 wrote:Let me try..

Official Proposal

1-shot Gladiator = Lil Uzi Vert
Inactive = Vecna
Day 5 Innocent Child = CheekyTeeky
Inventor = Gamma Emerald
Day 3 King = pisskop
Macho = momo
Miller = Oversoul
Odd-Night Motion Detector = Hidden Happiness (Shadoweh/MariaR hydra)
Neighbour = Titus
Neighbour = popsofctown
Timid = Iconeum
Night 1 Universal Backup = Nero Cain
Vanilla = Almost50
Compulsive Quitter = apthet
This was discussed already, but here are my thoughts: A50 giving pisskop King doesn't match with his posts towards the slot. Putting Nero as teh UB has me worried. Giving himself Vannilla is awkward. Apthet as lynch is meh.
In post 1382, Almost50 wrote:Why aren't we lynching the slot that contributed the least so far? pisskop already managed 4x as many posts as apthet had all game.
In post 1386, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1382, Almost50 wrote:Why aren't we lynching the slot that contributed the least so far? pisskop already managed 4x as many posts as apthet had all game.
Lynching based on activity is bad, unless there really really isn't anything else to go on.

Cause CT's posts in your scum PT don't count as contribution
Pops as townread
In post 1429, Hidden Happiness wrote:
In post 1402, Almost50 wrote:@Maria: Let me rephrase my point from 1397 then. From your PoV you maybe right on me, but then you assume all/most your other reads are wrong. Why? OR, you assume most of your reads are wrong (based on me proposing this list) so why do you assume your read on me is correct? Was I scum in Anime U-Pick? Was I scum in Limbo? Was I scum in Children of Hurin?
Do I scumread you a lot? Yes, but when I'm scum it's honestly super easy to get away with reading you as scum. I kinda just go 'i can call A50 scum because it's what he expects.' But please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I've scumread you correctly a most of the time when we've been TvS with me as the T. I don't scumread you because your A50 I would never do that to anyone and I can promise you that.
In post 1402, Almost50 wrote:So, it's not like I'm imagining things. You're opposed to me just for the fun of it, and when I say fun I mean from your PoV. I don't find it amusing to be SR'd regardless everytime we play together no matter what. Like you'd SR me because I'm not being serious, yet you'll vote me for being too serious. You'd vote me for not talking enough, but then you'll vote me for talking too much. You'd vote me for talking game mechanics, or for the LACK of talking game mechanics. HOW am I supposed to get you to read me correctly when you come into the game assuming I rolled scum every single time?
The children thing? A joke. I vote you a lot so I said 'you're not wrong' cause it's a 'haha' funny. I wouldn't SR you just for giggles because someone used to do that to me and it was such a shitty feeling. I promise I'm not doing that here. Your proposal made me do a double take because it wasn't a bad one a lot of it I'm honestly fine with it and made me question if my reads were wrong, but I looked it and said 'maybe he'd just switch a few' plus with my partner scumreading you I was fine with it.
I don't know if you'd take it this far as scum though and it makes me pause on wanting to lynch you. ~Maria
I was scumreading this slot early game, I don't anymore. Has been sorting and I like this post.
In post 1493, momo wrote:This proposal is mad suspicious.

CT gets kept alive until D5, and a50 out here giving himself vanilla.

Doubt.

VOTE: against

proposal failed
Was getting townfeels from momo, this post further improves townread there
In post 1513, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1509, popsofctown wrote:I'm pretty happy with a CT-Titus lynchpool, in that order, and some sane assignment of roles.
I think Iconeum is the best lynch today, I don't recall any exceptional notable objections to it
Again, lynches based on activity are not gonna help. Much better to get a flip that provides information and right now I believe A50 is the best lynch.
In post 1517, Vecna wrote:Im surprised not more people are suggesting an A50 lynch here. The scumreads there seem to be getting quite universal if im not mistaken.

I think my lynch pool for today in order of preference, currently is:

A50
CT
Icon/Titus
Nero
Gamma

Would definitely not want to lynch anyone else at this moment.
I know i've been called out for sheeping Vecna, but my reads match his. That's just the way it is.
My scumpool is A50/CT/Nero

Townpool of Vecna/pisskop/pops/momo


TL;DR

My scumpool is A50/CT/Nero

Townpool of Vecna/pisskop/pops/momo

I'll try and figure out a proposal that I would make based off of this
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:24 pm

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In post 1519, popsofctown wrote:It really bugs me for you to have a seven card lynchpool
So are you telling me any of those people are strong townreads for you? Those are the people id consider lynching with a very strong preference for the top, the rest are no go.
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:29 pm

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In post 1522, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1517, Vecna wrote:I think my lynch pool for today in order of preference, currently is:

A50
CT
Icon/Titus

Nero
Gamma
didn't you fuss @ me earlier for thinking those two are scum? kinda odd you think they are scum but are light defending them at the same time.
Everything under CT is like a 50/50 to me atm. Titus is probably quite good at buddying me, has done some things I think most likely come from town, but nothibg that cant be faked. Still a good lynch.

Icon I have no idea about but a lot of people want it lynched, so im fine with it as a third/concensusbchoice if thats what it comes down to.
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:33 pm

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In post 1532, pisskop wrote:I still want LUV as a neighbor, but a gladiating luv has some utility to me. I think nero as gladiator and luv as unibackup is better personally.

I dont TR momo, so I protest to their miller status. Swap apthet and momo pls.

otherwise sure.
I agree to the list, and these changes do indeed make it better
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:49 pm

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anyways ive suggested it before, but id like the neighnourhood to go to some of the top townreads. It makes for a tool thatll at least be used that way, while still resulting in shit NK options for scum.

Id prefer it to be me and pops since there seems to be some snimosity there recently which ill probably be able to.smoothe out during the night.

Ill take the IC if thats what people want, but I feel more than enough people correctly townread me for it to be a waste just to appease.pops. Heck even the likely scum candidates arent calling me scum but are just trying tonshade my every post i make. Still would like that to go to nero, gamma or HH.
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:50 pm

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whats the reason for wanting luv as neighbour again?
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:08 pm

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Luv is apparently not going to use the neighbourhood at all? Making him one is a terrible idea.
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:11 pm

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In post 1541, popsofctown wrote:Nero has enough scum equity at this point I'm not worried about him having scum gladiator, I could just lynch him and feel like it's a good %age lynch.

It's not like momo where I think he'd gladiate town as town and I townread him right now.
I think what you misunderstand is I think he could yologlad as town and get himself lynched that way. It's not like he can only gladiate tomorrow. You have to think about what someone will do three nights from now. I don't even know what to say to "but i want him to do that thing you don't want" :P I suppose this isn't as bad as a bad Backup though so switching the two is okay if it'll make this happen.

Vecna I'm basically saying you're the person we suspect I'd be most okay with guarenteed living long enough to clear you. You could see it as a get out of being mislynched card.

Gamma: I think a50 is scummy, Iconeum is barely above CT on my scum radar, CT is active lurking like it's a meme. apthet is possibly town but not active enough to go either way. Everyone else I'm basically townreading enough I wouldn't want to do terrible things to them. Oversoul is basically the least towny of the townreads and someone I think is least likely to get nightkilled anyways.

I have decided though that I'm throwing this out there and if people/replacements don't like it they can downvote it and make their own list, but everyone has seriously got to stop being so picky or we're never going to get something out at this rate. - Shadoweh

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1-shot Gladiator: Nero Cain
Inactive: Almost50
Day 5 Innocent Child: Vecna
Inventor: popsofctown
Day 3 King: pisskop
Macho: Oversoul('s slot?)
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Hidden Happiness
Neighbour: Titus
Neighbour: Gamma Emerald
Timid: Iconeum
Night 1 Universal Backup: Lil Uzi Vert
Vanilla: apthet
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:15 am

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Im a bit in doubt. id still wanna switch me and pops into those neighbour slots on the one hand. this just guarantees the first three nightkills to be the most townread and most active players.

on the other hand, ensuring those prs in town hands also has quite some benefits, since the inventor has a really nasty use in scum hands
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:16 am

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Game statusFailed proposals:
Spoiler: momo's proposal
For
(4): momo, Almost50, Iconeum, pisskop
Against
(7): Hidden Happiness, popsofctown, Nero Cain, Oversoul, Titus, Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna
Not voting
(3): apthet, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald
Spoiler: Vecna's proposal
For
(2): Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert
Against
(7): Titus, Oversoul, Nero Cain, popsofctown, momo, CheekyTeeky, Almost50
Not voting
(5): Iconeum, pisskop, apthet, Gamma Emerald, Hidden Happiness
Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal
For
(5): Oversoul, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, momo, Gamma Emerald
Against
(7): Hidden Happiness, Titus, Vecna, Nero Cain, Almost50, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert
Not voting
(2): Iconeum, apthet
Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal
For
(2): Lil Uzi Vert, Titus
Against
(7): Almost50, Hidden Happiness, popsofctown, momo, Nero Cain, Oversoul, Vecna
Not voting
(5): Iconeum, apthet, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald
Spoiler: Almost50's proposal
For
(2): Almost50, Gamma Emerald
Against
(7): popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, Hidden Happiness, Oversoul, Nero Cain, Vecna, momo
Not voting
(5): Iconeum, apthet, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, Titus
Current proposal
(by Hidden Happiness):
For
(1): Hidden Happiness
Against
(0):
nobody

Not voting
(13): Iconeum, apthet, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, Titus, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, Oversoul, Nero Cain, Vecna, momo, Almost50, Gamma Emerald



Proposal available
(8): Iconeum, Oversoul, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, pisskop, Titus
Proposal unavailable
(6): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, Almost50, Hidden Happiness

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Tuesday 30 July (
automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-07-30 00:05:00)
). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count
Iconeum
(1): Oversoul
CheekyTeeky
(1): popsofctown
Hidden Happiness
(1): Iconeum
Vecna
(1): Hidden Happiness
momo
(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:19 am

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also, putting me as IC just to "avoid being mislynched" is kinda crap reasoning since im probably one of the least mislynched person on this website.

It has happened exactly only once
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:30 am

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Who do you think the three most townread and active people are? pops pisskop and who? I'd argue Momo but a few people disagree. There's as much argument over whose actually a townread as there is over specific roles. I don't know anything about your record mate but from where I'm standing you're definitely on the lower end of the pool.

I think more people would go to war over where to put Titus if we put you and pops into neighbour slots then is worth changing it over.
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:39 am

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In post 1564, Hidden Happiness wrote:Who do you think the three most townread and active people are? pops pisskop and who? I'd argue Momo but a few people disagree. There's as much argument over whose actually a townread as there is over specific roles. I don't know anything about your record mate but from where I'm standing you're definitely on the lower end of the pool.

I think more people would go to war over where to put Titus if we put you and pops into neighbour slots then is worth changing it over.
disagree over vecna. He's pretty high up there

why do you have uzi for UB? is he that high of a townread?
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:39 am

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Ugh. 5 day if vecna is a little wasteful. But do I wanna drag today out longer?
I'll hear from the replacements some
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:41 am

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In post 1564, Hidden Happiness wrote:Who do you think the three most townread and active people are? pops pisskop and who? I'd argue Momo but a few people disagree. There's as much argument over whose actually a townread as there is over specific roles. I don't know anything about your record mate but from where I'm standing you're definitely on the lower end of the pool.

I think more people would go to war over where to put Titus if we put you and pops into neighbour slots then is worth changing it over.
Me, pops and momo, probably. Most people were susp on the saudade slot, but after me and pops made a comment about it, everyone seemed to have blindly sheeped that opinion.

I dno, mayne im wrongfully under the illusion everyone except you (hh), nero and to a smaller extent popsicle are townreading me? I do have the feeling my opinions carry quite a bit of weight and that theyve shifted "public opinion" on the titus, A50 and nero slot quite a bit.

having said that, maybe I just need to kick up some more dust because this type of sleepy hiveminding thats going on feels kinda detrimental and boring
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:50 am

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saudade is an easy read.


he's town if he is blunt. and I also am town by play. it's an old and slightly outdated/juvenile thing to say, but

"Trust me I'm town. The fact that we are even discussing (and I'm responding flatly about) my alignment means I'm town.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:52 am

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As scum I don't typically use the much weaker 'look at me shit post, watch as I self-depreciate myself with self-meta" defense.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:00 am

Post by Gamma Emerald »

In post 1553, Iconeum wrote:Catch up wall in the spoiler
Spoiler:
In post 1281, pisskop wrote:
In post 980, Titus wrote:
In post 977, Iconeum wrote:A50 should never be the lynch here. Why let HH live for so long? Titus just vanilla?
So much wrong here

A50 is obvscum, so why not lynch?
HH is town so why not have him live.
What's wrong with being vanilla? It appeases the Titus sucks crowd while keeping town me alive.
Think titus is townish here
Posting this first, my reads have changed quite a bit. I like how pisskop calls me out on this read
In post 1300, pisskop wrote:
In post 1193, Titus wrote:I also can't fathom who would pass momo's test
I will say this one time for your benefit.


If you are town!titus, you should consider ignoring a tunneling momo? Do you SR momo? If you do not then why arent you reasoning with them? if you do then why are you giving them more power by sitting by and flaccidly defending yourself?

Like I believe its your personality to get hung up on some things, like an unreasonable SR on your slot, but I think its time to let them dangle in the wind.
Scum has no benefit for intervening here. This is a town post.
In post 1333, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1257, pisskop wrote:
In post 142, Almost50 wrote:
In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:
@Mod how would a Timid King work?


I'm probably going to have a lot of mech questions throughout the game
Interesting question!
ORRRR its pretty shit because we cant give the same slot 2 roles.
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You know you could stop acting like a child and try using that organ inside that skull above your neck.

I/we know we can't give the same person 2 roles TODAY, but what if there is a role tomorrow that has a similar effect? Timid doesn't go with king and IC doesm't go with Miller.. etc. Apparently we get a new/different list of roles each day BUT there are roles that WILL appear again (one example is the Compulsive Quitter). Now what's wrong in asking and knowing in advance what how the mod planned to handle such situations just in case?
Arguing instead of solving. Scumlean on A50.
In post 1349, popsofctown wrote:1348 seems like a scummy post
Since it benefit Vecna to be good at reading Saudade now that Saudade is gone
Unless Vecna is thinking about the next time he plays with Saudade
But uh that's not something most people wanna spend time thinking about
I like the sorting that pops has going on.
In post 1376, Almost50 wrote:Let me try..

Official Proposal

1-shot Gladiator = Lil Uzi Vert
Inactive = Vecna
Day 5 Innocent Child = CheekyTeeky
Inventor = Gamma Emerald
Day 3 King = pisskop
Macho = momo
Miller = Oversoul
Odd-Night Motion Detector = Hidden Happiness (Shadoweh/MariaR hydra)
Neighbour = Titus
Neighbour = popsofctown
Timid = Iconeum
Night 1 Universal Backup = Nero Cain
Vanilla = Almost50
Compulsive Quitter = apthet
This was discussed already, but here are my thoughts: A50 giving pisskop King doesn't match with his posts towards the slot. Putting Nero as teh UB has me worried. Giving himself Vannilla is awkward. Apthet as lynch is meh.
In post 1382, Almost50 wrote:Why aren't we lynching the slot that contributed the least so far? pisskop already managed 4x as many posts as apthet had all game.
In post 1386, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1382, Almost50 wrote:Why aren't we lynching the slot that contributed the least so far? pisskop already managed 4x as many posts as apthet had all game.
Lynching based on activity is bad, unless there really really isn't anything else to go on.

Cause CT's posts in your scum PT don't count as contribution
Pops as townread
In post 1429, Hidden Happiness wrote:
In post 1402, Almost50 wrote:@Maria: Let me rephrase my point from 1397 then. From your PoV you maybe right on me, but then you assume all/most your other reads are wrong. Why? OR, you assume most of your reads are wrong (based on me proposing this list) so why do you assume your read on me is correct? Was I scum in Anime U-Pick? Was I scum in Limbo? Was I scum in Children of Hurin?
Do I scumread you a lot? Yes, but when I'm scum it's honestly super easy to get away with reading you as scum. I kinda just go 'i can call A50 scum because it's what he expects.' But please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I've scumread you correctly a most of the time when we've been TvS with me as the T. I don't scumread you because your A50 I would never do that to anyone and I can promise you that.
In post 1402, Almost50 wrote:So, it's not like I'm imagining things. You're opposed to me just for the fun of it, and when I say fun I mean from your PoV. I don't find it amusing to be SR'd regardless everytime we play together no matter what. Like you'd SR me because I'm not being serious, yet you'll vote me for being too serious. You'd vote me for not talking enough, but then you'll vote me for talking too much. You'd vote me for talking game mechanics, or for the LACK of talking game mechanics. HOW am I supposed to get you to read me correctly when you come into the game assuming I rolled scum every single time?
The children thing? A joke. I vote you a lot so I said 'you're not wrong' cause it's a 'haha' funny. I wouldn't SR you just for giggles because someone used to do that to me and it was such a shitty feeling. I promise I'm not doing that here. Your proposal made me do a double take because it wasn't a bad one a lot of it I'm honestly fine with it and made me question if my reads were wrong, but I looked it and said 'maybe he'd just switch a few' plus with my partner scumreading you I was fine with it.
I don't know if you'd take it this far as scum though and it makes me pause on wanting to lynch you. ~Maria
I was scumreading this slot early game, I don't anymore. Has been sorting and I like this post.
In post 1493, momo wrote:This proposal is mad suspicious.

CT gets kept alive until D5, and a50 out here giving himself vanilla.

Doubt.

VOTE: against

proposal failed
Was getting townfeels from momo, this post further improves townread there
In post 1513, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1509, popsofctown wrote:I'm pretty happy with a CT-Titus lynchpool, in that order, and some sane assignment of roles.
I think Iconeum is the best lynch today, I don't recall any exceptional notable objections to it
Again, lynches based on activity are not gonna help. Much better to get a flip that provides information and right now I believe A50 is the best lynch.
In post 1517, Vecna wrote:Im surprised not more people are suggesting an A50 lynch here. The scumreads there seem to be getting quite universal if im not mistaken.

I think my lynch pool for today in order of preference, currently is:

A50
CT
Icon/Titus
Nero
Gamma

Would definitely not want to lynch anyone else at this moment.
I know i've been called out for sheeping Vecna, but my reads match his. That's just the way it is.
My scumpool is A50/CT/Nero

Townpool of Vecna/pisskop/pops/momo


TL;DR

My scumpool is A50/CT/Nero

Townpool of Vecna/pisskop/pops/momo

I'll try and figure out a proposal that I would make based off of this
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:04 am

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In post 1570, Gamma Emerald wrote:Talk about your CT scumread.
His early D1 sorting felt forced. Started lurking until he was being put up the chopping block. Wants to take any role just to survive.
There's not 1 thing that really sticks out, it's a general feeling (forced).
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:07 am

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In post 1560, Hidden Happiness wrote:
In post 1541, popsofctown wrote:Nero has enough scum equity at this point I'm not worried about him having scum gladiator, I could just lynch him and feel like it's a good %age lynch.

It's not like momo where I think he'd gladiate town as town and I townread him right now.
I think what you misunderstand is I think he could yologlad as town and get himself lynched that way. It's not like he can only gladiate tomorrow. You have to think about what someone will do three nights from now. I don't even know what to say to "but i want him to do that thing you don't want" :P I suppose this isn't as bad as a bad Backup though so switching the two is okay if it'll make this happen.

Vecna I'm basically saying you're the person we suspect I'd be most okay with guarenteed living long enough to clear you. You could see it as a get out of being mislynched card.

Gamma: I think a50 is scummy, Iconeum is barely above CT on my scum radar, CT is active lurking like it's a meme. apthet is possibly town but not active enough to go either way. Everyone else I'm basically townreading enough I wouldn't want to do terrible things to them. Oversoul is basically the least towny of the townreads and someone I think is least likely to get nightkilled anyways.

I have decided though that I'm throwing this out there and if people/replacements don't like it they can downvote it and make their own list, but everyone has seriously got to stop being so picky or we're never going to get something out at this rate. - Shadoweh

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1-shot Gladiator: Nero Cain
Inactive: Almost50
Day 5 Innocent Child: Vecna
Inventor: popsofctown
Day 3 King: pisskop
Macho: Oversoul('s slot?)
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Hidden Happiness
Neighbour: Titus
Neighbour: Gamma Emerald
Timid: Iconeum
Night 1 Universal Backup: Lil Uzi Vert
Vanilla: apthet
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky
This list doesn't look half bad
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:09 am

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In post 1571, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1570, Gamma Emerald wrote:Talk about your CT scumread.
His early D1 sorting felt forced. Started lurking until he was being put up the chopping block. Wants to take any role just to survive.
There's not 1 thing that really sticks out, it's a general feeling (forced).
Okay
You accused the lynch on you of being "activity based" so I was doing a values check
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:34 am

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I thought you'd be all up in arms over me being glad.
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